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		<title>By: Shredding on the Interstate &#171; Mission Mission</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2008/11/27/los-angeles/#comment-2892</link>
		<dc:creator>Shredding on the Interstate &#171; Mission Mission</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 20:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2008/11/27/los-angeles/#comment-2891</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think we hate LA so much as we hate having to drive to get everywhere there. Also, I read in the above comments someone who is disgusted by the adj./adv. &quot;hella,&quot; to which I must say, what the hellz dude? Just as Angelinos can brag about putting an article in front of freeway numbers, we can be proud of saying hella. There is nothing disgusting about it. Bostonians say wicked, we say hella. What can I say? It&#039;s not a bad thing. It&#039;s merely our vernacular.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think we hate LA so much as we hate having to drive to get everywhere there. Also, I read in the above comments someone who is disgusted by the adj./adv. &#8220;hella,&#8221; to which I must say, what the hellz dude? Just as Angelinos can brag about putting an article in front of freeway numbers, we can be proud of saying hella. There is nothing disgusting about it. Bostonians say wicked, we say hella. What can I say? It&#8217;s not a bad thing. It&#8217;s merely our vernacular.</p>
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		<title>By: zinzin</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2008/11/27/los-angeles/#comment-2890</link>
		<dc:creator>zinzin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dude i love your acronyms, dont get me wrong.

far as NY/SF...NY loves SF. loves it loves it loves it.

kind of like you love a cute younger cousin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dude i love your acronyms, dont get me wrong.</p>
<p>far as NY/SF&#8230;NY loves SF. loves it loves it loves it.</p>
<p>kind of like you love a cute younger cousin.</p>
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		<title>By: johnny0</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2008/11/27/los-angeles/#comment-2889</link>
		<dc:creator>johnny0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m really not surprised by the one-sided animosity -- it&#039;s pretty common when you have a &quot;big&quot; thing and a neighboring place that may have a few insecurity issues.  But the funny thing is the &#039;insecure&#039; place is usually causing angst somewhere else.

I really don&#039;t sense NY-SF animosity. Is SF:LA=LA:NY?  Or does LA really care about anywhere else?

But in all seriousness, I think SFvLA (sorry zinzin) really goes back to 1906.  In 1900, SF was 3 times the population of LA (300k to 100k) but by 1912 or so it was even.  LA got a kick-start when lots of businesses that didn&#039;t feel like rebuilding moved down after the earthquake, and companies establishing a new west coast office chose LA instead of SF.

But enough demographics.  We still have better burritos.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really not surprised by the one-sided animosity &#8212; it&#8217;s pretty common when you have a &#8220;big&#8221; thing and a neighboring place that may have a few insecurity issues.  But the funny thing is the &#8216;insecure&#8217; place is usually causing angst somewhere else.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t sense NY-SF animosity. Is SF:LA=LA:NY?  Or does LA really care about anywhere else?</p>
<p>But in all seriousness, I think SFvLA (sorry zinzin) really goes back to 1906.  In 1900, SF was 3 times the population of LA (300k to 100k) but by 1912 or so it was even.  LA got a kick-start when lots of businesses that didn&#8217;t feel like rebuilding moved down after the earthquake, and companies establishing a new west coast office chose LA instead of SF.</p>
<p>But enough demographics.  We still have better burritos.</p>
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		<title>By: Psychic Palm Riot</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2008/11/27/los-angeles/#comment-2888</link>
		<dc:creator>Psychic Palm Riot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I lived in LA for 7 years in between stints in SF and have been puzzled and a little embarrassed by the SF animosity towards LA.  When I encounter it, it&#039;s another moment when SF does seem a bit pretentious.  It did take me 2 years to figure out LA, but once I did I loved it.  LA is kinda coy that way, not like SF which kinda throws itself at you.  Moved back here oh so reluctantly for a job offer when they were few and far between down south.  I love SF too, in particular the Mission.  It certainly does top LA in a lot of  ways, but LA.....there&#039;s more there than meets the eye.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lived in LA for 7 years in between stints in SF and have been puzzled and a little embarrassed by the SF animosity towards LA.  When I encounter it, it&#8217;s another moment when SF does seem a bit pretentious.  It did take me 2 years to figure out LA, but once I did I loved it.  LA is kinda coy that way, not like SF which kinda throws itself at you.  Moved back here oh so reluctantly for a job offer when they were few and far between down south.  I love SF too, in particular the Mission.  It certainly does top LA in a lot of  ways, but LA&#8230;..there&#8217;s more there than meets the eye.</p>
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		<title>By: johnny0</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2008/11/27/los-angeles/#comment-2887</link>
		<dc:creator>johnny0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m looking forward to the (real) bullet train -- no I-5, 2.5 hours to LA -- that will keep SF honest.

But hey, with global warming, we&#039;ll be able to drink in our backyards all the time here!  Of course, the snowpack will be gone, we won&#039;t have any water and the coast from LA to SF will look like Baja California.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to the (real) bullet train &#8212; no I-5, 2.5 hours to LA &#8212; that will keep SF honest.</p>
<p>But hey, with global warming, we&#8217;ll be able to drink in our backyards all the time here!  Of course, the snowpack will be gone, we won&#8217;t have any water and the coast from LA to SF will look like Baja California.</p>
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		<title>By: zinzin</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2008/11/27/los-angeles/#comment-2886</link>
		<dc:creator>zinzin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dude. William Friedkin. gotta love the guy. a million things of note...Cruising is my fave by him. but also the exorcist, boys in the band, french connection, the birthday party...now he does lame TV. he really did capture a certain glimpse of LA in that movie, though i never was in LA till 1989.

ah well, now that i know about it, i see the LA hate here in SF. just today i floated it out over bloody marys in my own back yard...&quot;gee, i was thinking about a few days in LA&quot;. people practically threw rocks &amp; garbage at me.

fuck em. i&#039;m still going.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dude. William Friedkin. gotta love the guy. a million things of note&#8230;Cruising is my fave by him. but also the exorcist, boys in the band, french connection, the birthday party&#8230;now he does lame TV. he really did capture a certain glimpse of LA in that movie, though i never was in LA till 1989.</p>
<p>ah well, now that i know about it, i see the LA hate here in SF. just today i floated it out over bloody marys in my own back yard&#8230;&#8221;gee, i was thinking about a few days in LA&#8221;. people practically threw rocks &amp; garbage at me.</p>
<p>fuck em. i&#8217;m still going.</p>
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		<title>By: johnny0</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2008/11/27/los-angeles/#comment-2885</link>
		<dc:creator>johnny0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 02:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think people are jealous of the weather more than anything else.  Pretty nice to be able to eat dinner outside all the time, and have beaches with water above 55 degrees..

And then there&#039;s To Live and Die in LA. That had a dramatic influence on how I perceived LA -- DAMN was that was a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtgWDtGjPRU&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cool car chase scene&lt;/a&gt;. Made all the better by the Wang Chung soundtrack.  Wang Chung is probably the most underappreciated band of the 80s (though David + David gives them a run for their money - pretty sure Boomtown was about LA.)  I think it says something that there haven&#039;t been too many songs about San Francisco since the 60s, but I digress on my digression.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people are jealous of the weather more than anything else.  Pretty nice to be able to eat dinner outside all the time, and have beaches with water above 55 degrees..</p>
<p>And then there&#8217;s To Live and Die in LA. That had a dramatic influence on how I perceived LA &#8212; DAMN was that was a <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtgWDtGjPRU" rel="nofollow">cool car chase scene</a>. Made all the better by the Wang Chung soundtrack.  Wang Chung is probably the most underappreciated band of the 80s (though David + David gives them a run for their money &#8211; pretty sure Boomtown was about LA.)  I think it says something that there haven&#8217;t been too many songs about San Francisco since the 60s, but I digress on my digression.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie Ann</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2008/11/27/los-angeles/#comment-2884</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand the history n shit, but really, driving around - seein the billboards, and girls in short shorts and high heels at 3pm, oh, and paying $8 for a campari and soda during happy hour, no thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand the history n shit, but really, driving around &#8211; seein the billboards, and girls in short shorts and high heels at 3pm, oh, and paying $8 for a campari and soda during happy hour, no thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: We Love Bart Davenport &#171; Mission Mission</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2008/11/27/los-angeles/#comment-2883</link>
		<dc:creator>We Love Bart Davenport &#171; Mission Mission</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: zinzin</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2008/11/27/los-angeles/#comment-2882</link>
		<dc:creator>zinzin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[do SF people really hate LA? really? i mean, i know SF-ers are smug about how &quot;cool&quot; and &quot;vibrant&quot; the city is (or seems to be, to them)....but they HATE LA?

i mean, the traffic &amp; need for cars &amp; vapid hollywood types sort of blow, but LA has a really rich, diverse and deep history. much deeper, i would say - in terms of current, happening now art or culture - than SF could even hope for.

shit, i&#039;m embarrassed to learn that SF has a hate on for LA. i love our little backwater...but let&#039;s not forget, SF is a small town with a big attitude. LA is a real life big city.

i just spent 2 weeks in NY. i could go on &amp; on....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do SF people really hate LA? really? i mean, i know SF-ers are smug about how &#8220;cool&#8221; and &#8220;vibrant&#8221; the city is (or seems to be, to them)&#8230;.but they HATE LA?</p>
<p>i mean, the traffic &amp; need for cars &amp; vapid hollywood types sort of blow, but LA has a really rich, diverse and deep history. much deeper, i would say &#8211; in terms of current, happening now art or culture &#8211; than SF could even hope for.</p>
<p>shit, i&#8217;m embarrassed to learn that SF has a hate on for LA. i love our little backwater&#8230;but let&#8217;s not forget, SF is a small town with a big attitude. LA is a real life big city.</p>
<p>i just spent 2 weeks in NY. i could go on &amp; on&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: guero</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2008/11/27/los-angeles/#comment-2881</link>
		<dc:creator>guero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 06:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s funny how people in LA are completely puzzled by the hate that blows south from the Bay Area. When I decided to move to LA from the City in 1995, everyone here would twist their face in agony and disgust, &quot;Why do you want to move there? ehhh LA?
Well, I love LA, that&#039;s right I LOVE LA! -Besides the horrendous, horrendous traffic but even then you learn to deal -you just kick back and listen the tunes on KCRW while you sit in traffic on THE 101, THE 405 and THE 10. Just like you get used to the garbage and pee smells on 24 Street. Yeah I still use &quot;THE&quot; before freeways now that I am back in the City but for godssakes, it took my first 2 months in LA to stop using that horrible Bay Area adjective, &quot;HELLA&quot;!!! Now, whenever I hear people saying &quot;hella&quot; or &quot;hecka&quot; I recoil in horror and shame! What is worse is my 8 yo son said it the other day!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny how people in LA are completely puzzled by the hate that blows south from the Bay Area. When I decided to move to LA from the City in 1995, everyone here would twist their face in agony and disgust, &#8220;Why do you want to move there? ehhh LA?<br />
Well, I love LA, that&#8217;s right I LOVE LA! -Besides the horrendous, horrendous traffic but even then you learn to deal -you just kick back and listen the tunes on KCRW while you sit in traffic on THE 101, THE 405 and THE 10. Just like you get used to the garbage and pee smells on 24 Street. Yeah I still use &#8220;THE&#8221; before freeways now that I am back in the City but for godssakes, it took my first 2 months in LA to stop using that horrible Bay Area adjective, &#8220;HELLA&#8221;!!! Now, whenever I hear people saying &#8220;hella&#8221; or &#8220;hecka&#8221; I recoil in horror and shame! What is worse is my 8 yo son said it the other day!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Plug1</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2008/11/27/los-angeles/#comment-2880</link>
		<dc:creator>Plug1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[eh. i hate to admit it, but LA is growing on me.  at least a little bit.

Plug2 and i are there right now, and thus far have hit Gold Room on Sunset ($5 - beer/shot/tacos), Carroll Ave (highest concentration of Victorians) in Angeleno Heights, Watts Towers, Slauson Swap Meet, docks of Long Beach, The LA River, an indoor tour of Frank Lloyd Wright&#039;s Ennis House in The Hills and the Griffith Park Observatory.

and we have 2 more days to explore!!

it&#039;s not San Francisco by a long shot, but i hate it far less than i did prior to this trip.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eh. i hate to admit it, but LA is growing on me.  at least a little bit.</p>
<p>Plug2 and i are there right now, and thus far have hit Gold Room on Sunset ($5 &#8211; beer/shot/tacos), Carroll Ave (highest concentration of Victorians) in Angeleno Heights, Watts Towers, Slauson Swap Meet, docks of Long Beach, The LA River, an indoor tour of Frank Lloyd Wright&#8217;s Ennis House in The Hills and the Griffith Park Observatory.</p>
<p>and we have 2 more days to explore!!</p>
<p>it&#8217;s not San Francisco by a long shot, but i hate it far less than i did prior to this trip.</p>
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		<title>By: Dolores Park Photo Shoot &#171; Mission Mission</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2008/11/27/los-angeles/#comment-2879</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolores Park Photo Shoot &#171; Mission Mission</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Note that post author La Moussy equates Dolores Park to Echo Park &#8212; further proof that the Mission and Los Angeles are two peas in a pod. [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Allan Hough</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2008/11/27/los-angeles/#comment-2878</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan Hough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for reading!]]></description>
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