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		<title>By: Fancy Schmancy People &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Life Of The Mission District</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/01/23/helluva-morning-for-mucking-about-with-billboards/#comment-34214</link>
		<dc:creator>Fancy Schmancy People &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Life Of The Mission District</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: johnny0</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/01/23/helluva-morning-for-mucking-about-with-billboards/#comment-3356</link>
		<dc:creator>johnny0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 03:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Somebody had permits:

http://sf.everyblock.com/building-permits/streets/mission-st/3300-3328/1-block/by-project-type/349/

http://sf.everyblock.com/building-permits/streets/mission-st/3300-3328/1-block/by-project-type/324/

Note prop G is specifically mentioned in this one:

http://services.sfgov.org/dbipts/default.aspx?page=Permit&amp;PermitNumber=200610256007]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody had permits:</p>
<p><a href="http://sf.everyblock.com/building-permits/streets/mission-st/3300-3328/1-block/by-project-type/349/" rel="nofollow">http://sf.everyblock.com/building-permits/streets/mission-st/3300-3328/1-block/by-project-type/349/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://sf.everyblock.com/building-permits/streets/mission-st/3300-3328/1-block/by-project-type/324/" rel="nofollow">http://sf.everyblock.com/building-permits/streets/mission-st/3300-3328/1-block/by-project-type/324/</a></p>
<p>Note prop G is specifically mentioned in this one:</p>
<p><a href="http://services.sfgov.org/dbipts/default.aspx?page=Permit&#038;PermitNumber=200610256007" rel="nofollow">http://services.sfgov.org/dbipts/default.aspx?page=Permit&#038;PermitNumber=200610256007</a></p>
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		<title>By: umm</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/01/23/helluva-morning-for-mucking-about-with-billboards/#comment-3355</link>
		<dc:creator>umm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 02:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[but do they have a building permit?  doubtful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but do they have a building permit?  doubtful.</p>
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		<title>By: johnny0</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/01/23/helluva-morning-for-mucking-about-with-billboards/#comment-3354</link>
		<dc:creator>johnny0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From what I saw, it looked like they were replacing the existing billboard skeleton.  And from what I understand, Prop G banned billboards in *new* locations.  The city can go after existing signs that don&#039;t have permits, or those that are considered unsafe.  Naturally, the fine people at Clear Channel are fighting this in court on 1st Amendment grounds. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/12/02/BA5G14F6M8.DTL&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;More at SFGate&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;i&gt;According to the city rules, any billboards erected after 2002 and ones that do not comply with planning codes are considered to be in violation of the law.

When the city identifies such a billboard, it issues a violation notice to the sign company and property owner and gives them several weeks to remove the sign or resolve permit problems or code infractions.

If the owners don&#039;t respond in the time allotted, fines ranging from $100 a day to $2,500 per day can be imposed, depending on the size of the sign. Owners can challenge the violation before an administrative law judge. But if they lose the appeal and the billboard in question has remained up during the appeal, they are charged a fixed penalty of $2,000 to $50,000 depending on the size of the sign.&lt;/i&gt;

That being said, Clear Channel doesn&#039;t seem too quick on the draw - they just covered over &lt;a href=&quot;http://burritojustice.wordpress.com/2008/12/07/billboards-tags-improvement/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Silence&lt;/a&gt; after two months, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://burritojustice.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/l-640-480-6e85c0bd-81f8-4505-8c0b-ed57315b9e5b.jpeg?w=500&amp;h=375&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hater&lt;/a&gt; has lasted even longer.  All the more reason to hope for the Silence and &lt;a href=&quot;http://missionmission.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/no-on-8/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Girafa&lt;/a&gt; treatment!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I saw, it looked like they were replacing the existing billboard skeleton.  And from what I understand, Prop G banned billboards in *new* locations.  The city can go after existing signs that don&#8217;t have permits, or those that are considered unsafe.  Naturally, the fine people at Clear Channel are fighting this in court on 1st Amendment grounds. <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/12/02/BA5G14F6M8.DTL" rel="nofollow">More at SFGate</a>.</p>
<p><i>According to the city rules, any billboards erected after 2002 and ones that do not comply with planning codes are considered to be in violation of the law.</p>
<p>When the city identifies such a billboard, it issues a violation notice to the sign company and property owner and gives them several weeks to remove the sign or resolve permit problems or code infractions.</p>
<p>If the owners don&#8217;t respond in the time allotted, fines ranging from $100 a day to $2,500 per day can be imposed, depending on the size of the sign. Owners can challenge the violation before an administrative law judge. But if they lose the appeal and the billboard in question has remained up during the appeal, they are charged a fixed penalty of $2,000 to $50,000 depending on the size of the sign.</i></p>
<p>That being said, Clear Channel doesn&#8217;t seem too quick on the draw &#8211; they just covered over <a href="http://burritojustice.wordpress.com/2008/12/07/billboards-tags-improvement/" rel="nofollow">Silence</a> after two months, and <a href="http://burritojustice.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/l-640-480-6e85c0bd-81f8-4505-8c0b-ed57315b9e5b.jpeg?w=500&amp;h=375" rel="nofollow">Hater</a> has lasted even longer.  All the more reason to hope for the Silence and <a href="http://missionmission.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/no-on-8/" rel="nofollow">Girafa</a> treatment!</p>
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		<title>By: zinzin</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/01/23/helluva-morning-for-mucking-about-with-billboards/#comment-3353</link>
		<dc:creator>zinzin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: glot</title>
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		<dc:creator>glot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Am I the only one who thinks that Clear Channel&#039;s been eating crazy pills? What happened to 2002&#039;s Prop G? You know, the one which created &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.municode.com/content/4201/14139/HTML/ch006.html#SEC.%20611.&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SF municipal planning code section 611&lt;/a&gt; which reads:

No new general advertising signs shall be permitted at any location within the City as of March 5, 2002

That ordinance is the reason we don&#039;t have as many billboards as we already do, and it&#039;s the reason the famous &quot;17 Reasons Why&quot; billboard on 17th and Mission was finally taken town and replaced with a big 33&#039; visual fart. Well… I&#039;m off to write my supervisor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one who thinks that Clear Channel&#8217;s been eating crazy pills? What happened to 2002&#8242;s Prop G? You know, the one which created <a href="http://www.municode.com/content/4201/14139/HTML/ch006.html#SEC.%20611." rel="nofollow">SF municipal planning code section 611</a> which reads:</p>
<p>No new general advertising signs shall be permitted at any location within the City as of March 5, 2002</p>
<p>That ordinance is the reason we don&#8217;t have as many billboards as we already do, and it&#8217;s the reason the famous &#8220;17 Reasons Why&#8221; billboard on 17th and Mission was finally taken town and replaced with a big 33&#8242; visual fart. Well… I&#8217;m off to write my supervisor.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Hough</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/01/23/helluva-morning-for-mucking-about-with-billboards/#comment-3351</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan Hough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good call.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good call.</p>
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		<title>By: johnny0</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/01/23/helluva-morning-for-mucking-about-with-billboards/#comment-3350</link>
		<dc:creator>johnny0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, that&#039;s cool to see from both perspectives. Now all we need is a photo from Bernal!

I want &lt;a href=&quot;http://burritojustice.wordpress.com/2008/12/07/billboards-tags-improvement/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Silence&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that&#8217;s cool to see from both perspectives. Now all we need is a photo from Bernal!</p>
<p>I want <a href="http://burritojustice.wordpress.com/2008/12/07/billboards-tags-improvement/" rel="nofollow">Silence</a>.</p>
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