Comments on: Mission Merchants Association Supports American Apparel

By: Alternate Mission « Burrito Justice

Alternate Mission « Burrito Justice — Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:53:48 +0000

[...] context is in order. This was the “Miracle Mile” — the Mission used to be one of the primary shopping districts in the city (there was [...]

By: Long time Mission resident

Long time Mission resident — Sat, 21 Feb 2009 04:10:45 +0000

I never thought there would be something that would want me to leave this neighborhood until this whole brouhaha with AA. I consider myself a Democrat, decidedly left of center, but I am just appalled at the stupidity, arrogance, and self-centeredness of the so-called concerned merchants and citizens of the Mission and their borderline hateful crusade to keep AA out. Read the posts by Dema and the others, and all you keep seeing is the word ‘I’. “I don’t want . . . “, “I think . . . . “. It’s all about what they want. Well no crap they’re going to say that – they are would be competitors! They’re only out for themselves, not the quality of the neighborhood. And the total hubris of the vocal minority is just astounding – who are they to say what the neighborhood should be? And finally, this is not a zero sum game, folks. I know plenty of people who come to the Mission to party, but definitely not to shop. What are your choices? Basically stores like Dema with overpriced and ugly crap. If you get people here to shop (and yes, people do buy things at chains), then they will also linger and shop and eat at other local places. Are you people so socialist that you have a problem with money being made in this neighborhood?

By: Scott Mercer

Scott Mercer — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:36:05 +0000

You idiots just hate American Apparel because it’s from Los Angeles.

By: lackadaisy

lackadaisy — Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:35:16 +0000

I think the biggest point most people are missing on this when it comes to mom and pop v. chain and the history of the missions’s box stores is that we are now living in a post dot-com bubble SF. Most locals who have been in the city for over 15 years still harbor resentment towards those who moved into the city with their cars, money and disregard for the quaint SF that honestly, is hard to find these days.

By: The Beer & Nosh Dinner = Beer & Sword Swallowing « Burrito Justice

The Beer & Nosh Dinner = Beer & Sword Swallowing « Burrito Justice — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:26:51 +0000

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By: Zinzin

Zinzin — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:04:37 +0000

God. Your hubris is exhausting.

By: chicken john

chicken john — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:46:40 +0000

Are you really gonna use this forum to talk about my campaign finace issues?

You must be desperate to find something to talk about other then the fact that American Apparel will not be opening a store on Valencia Street.

How about we talk about the Mission Merchants Association is a cartel of landlords looking to sell out to the highest bidder?

How about we talk of doing actual good things with our energy instead of squandering it fighting amongst ourselves?

Valencia Street will never have a chain store on it. Period. End of discussion. I didn’t even really try and got 600 or so people to city hall. We are organized and powerful. And like the MMA, there are many of us that own property.

This is now off the table. Don’t waste our time adn yours trying to do anything like this ever again. You will fail like a dog in the dirt.

If you don’t like Valencia street, just say so. I’ll buy your building. You can go invest in Concord in a Nike store or something.

Just let me know, we’ll buy you out. Now that you see that it is impossible to put chain stores here, a few MMA people will stop warehouseing storefronts now that it’s obvious your never gonna get that Starbucks money.

We all know DOZENS of people who will rent storefronts on Valencia. Currently, there are 28 empty storefronts. All of whom have been approached by local, independant shops. They’re waiting for the big money. Maybe now that they see it’s never comming, they’ll rent the shops. That would be nice.

This ain’t Atlantic City, guys. The time of the bubble economy has ended. We got a new President, we got a new fresh start. Valencia is working. It’s fun. Enjoy it. Participate.

You can’t beat us. Join us. You reap the benifits of the city of Art and Innovation constantly. Contribute to it.

There are things that are more valuable than money.

I hope that the next civic function that we find ourselves on the same side, helping people to either be inspired, fucntional or to help those less fortunate than ourselves.

If we could take the amount of effort we all just spent on this topic, and channel it to getting art supplies for kids in SF schools, we could probably save a bankrupt school board a cool million dollars. I know it’s all important, but please don’t be shy to ask me and other people who were sucsessful in this massive action to help out with other things that are calibrated to helping, instead of blocking or whatever.

chickenjohn@chickenjohn.com

By: kiya

kiya — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 02:02:09 +0000

My views have just been swayed, i’m no longer neutral on this.
We don’t need American Apparel here in the Mission District.
As a resident of the Mission for ten years and a business owner for three years, my worst nightmare is Valencia looking like Upper Haight. I’d plain and simple have to move, and it’d be a sad ending to a beautiful and unique neighborhood.

-kiya
Owner of Self Edge (Valencia @ 18th)

By: kiya

kiya — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 02:00:27 +0000

-kiya
Owner of Self Edge (Valencia @ 18th)
http://www.selfedge.com
xo

By: kiya

kiya — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 01:51:24 +0000

-kiya
Owner of Self Edge (Valencia @ 18th)
http://www.selfedge.com

By: Tex

Tex — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 01:19:00 +0000

@Bob
…since when did Chicken John start living out of town?
I’m thinking it’s gonna take more than 5 gallons of gasoline to settle this.

By: klm.

klm. — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 00:13:11 +0000

this is one crowded meeting. you can all stop arguing soon hopefully. and maybe we can stop dragging hipster into every single article blog and anything about this debate. its coming on in a few minutes…watch it here.

http://sanfrancisco.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?publish_id=47

By: Joe Martin

Joe Martin — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 23:59:23 +0000

It’s hillare how hard ‘The Mission’ means ‘The Valencia’. Area whites are funny.

By: Jeff

Jeff — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 23:57:38 +0000

On the Ritual thing, point taken. So, they don’t have 11 locations. But one of their two locations is in the Bayview. Not to get into a pissing match here. I just think it’s ironic as hell that the business from which a lot of the outrage against AA centers is itself guilty of … dare I utter the “G” word here? No, because I don’t think Ritual is evil. Ditto American Apparel.

By: Zinzin

Zinzin — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 23:42:06 +0000

@bob

You gotta remember, the whole thing is as much a spotlight grab for Elliott as anything else.

No surprise others will jump onto it as well.