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	<title>Comments on: Chronicle Editorial: Nasty Little Elves in the Mission</title>
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		<title>By: jenny</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/02/09/chronicle-editorial-nasty-little-elves-in-the-mission/#comment-4133</link>
		<dc:creator>jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I think there are better things to protest right now than American Apparel, I am HORRIFIED that such a creep writes for the Chronicle.  What horrible, incorrect stereotyping.  What a deliberate, ignorant bitch.  I mean, &quot;The few who read books know no authors beyond Naomi Klein. They do not believe that the world has changed since the 1999 World Trade Organization protests in Seattle. This accounts for both the static nature of their vocabulary - “no formula retail!”&#039;

You know Caille -- If more people read Naomi Klein than your fetid almost unbelievably greedy corporate-apologia journal, the world wouldn&#039;t be in the crisis state you outline.  You are an asshole, and a very smug one to boot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I think there are better things to protest right now than American Apparel, I am HORRIFIED that such a creep writes for the Chronicle.  What horrible, incorrect stereotyping.  What a deliberate, ignorant bitch.  I mean, &#8220;The few who read books know no authors beyond Naomi Klein. They do not believe that the world has changed since the 1999 World Trade Organization protests in Seattle. This accounts for both the static nature of their vocabulary &#8211; “no formula retail!”&#8217;</p>
<p>You know Caille &#8212; If more people read Naomi Klein than your fetid almost unbelievably greedy corporate-apologia journal, the world wouldn&#8217;t be in the crisis state you outline.  You are an asshole, and a very smug one to boot.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man, will you all realize that YOU&#039;RE the reason AA wanted to move in here in the first place?? Get the hell out of my community already.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, will you all realize that YOU&#8217;RE the reason AA wanted to move in here in the first place?? Get the hell out of my community already.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Simitzis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Simitzis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m neutral on AA as a business, but it&#039;s shameful to read those horrid screeds in the media decrying an open, fair, and democratic process. Going down to City Hall and voicing your opinion about the community you live in is about the most basic citizen participation there is.

AA will be fine, and SF will be fine. AA will open in another neighborhood or on another street in SF, and life will move on. Meanwhile, the residents and business owners around Valencia will get exactly the neighborhood they want and deserve. Whether the result is better or worse remains to be seen. But the important thing is that the outcome was chosen by people who actually live here, not imposed upon us by distant corporations, no matter how cool and friendly those corporations may be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m neutral on AA as a business, but it&#8217;s shameful to read those horrid screeds in the media decrying an open, fair, and democratic process. Going down to City Hall and voicing your opinion about the community you live in is about the most basic citizen participation there is.</p>
<p>AA will be fine, and SF will be fine. AA will open in another neighborhood or on another street in SF, and life will move on. Meanwhile, the residents and business owners around Valencia will get exactly the neighborhood they want and deserve. Whether the result is better or worse remains to be seen. But the important thing is that the outcome was chosen by people who actually live here, not imposed upon us by distant corporations, no matter how cool and friendly those corporations may be.</p>
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		<title>By: fsharp</title>
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		<dc:creator>fsharp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@fledermaus - Funny article. There is nothing working class or Latino about Valencia any more. It&#039;s not really part of the Mission at all.
This whole AA debate proved that point perfectly.

AA would be welcome on Mission street. We&#039;re not too proud, we need the jobs and we need shoppers with more than $5 in their pockets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@fledermaus &#8211; Funny article. There is nothing working class or Latino about Valencia any more. It&#8217;s not really part of the Mission at all.<br />
This whole AA debate proved that point perfectly.</p>
<p>AA would be welcome on Mission street. We&#8217;re not too proud, we need the jobs and we need shoppers with more than $5 in their pockets.</p>
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		<title>By: fledermaus</title>
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		<dc:creator>fledermaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: olu</title>
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		<dc:creator>olu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My main problem with the piece was two-fold. It over represented the positive impact of 15 jobs, and one less empty storefront, and it didn&#039;t take into consideration the long term. Why would it, they can just write another article later about how Valencia has changed - and wistfully look back on the days of yore.
Plus as has been noted in other publications for every vacant storefront about 15 business plans are being submitted, so the Landlords (who weren&#039;t mentioned at all) play a role.
I like Caille as a  person, but this piece was rather like going to the Marina and making fun of them keeping a discount store out of their neighborhood.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My main problem with the piece was two-fold. It over represented the positive impact of 15 jobs, and one less empty storefront, and it didn&#8217;t take into consideration the long term. Why would it, they can just write another article later about how Valencia has changed &#8211; and wistfully look back on the days of yore.<br />
Plus as has been noted in other publications for every vacant storefront about 15 business plans are being submitted, so the Landlords (who weren&#8217;t mentioned at all) play a role.<br />
I like Caille as a  person, but this piece was rather like going to the Marina and making fun of them keeping a discount store out of their neighborhood.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Matt G writes: &quot;The author did not mention any more threatening problems she thought people should work on.&quot;

As much as I dislike her tone, she does.  She suggests that commercial vacancies are a problem and that property standards are low as a result.  She says that the neighborhood needs more jobs like AA&#039;s ($30k salary + health insurance.)  She says that the city would benefit from the increased tax revenue - every city&#039;s revenues are being drastically cut this year.

I don&#039;t understand what was gained here.  People in the Mission like AA the brand and wear AA clothing.  So why protect a small business that sells AA from AA at the expense of workers?  Health insurance for workers is surely one of the most important things in our country, and small businesses in the Mission are not offering it.

You might cite high commercial rents as the reason why small businesses on Valencia can&#039;t offer health insurance (which would be relatively cheap given their mostly young and healthy workforce.)  But let&#039;s say that neighborhood activists got a commercial rent control ordinance passed (a worthy solution, perhaps).  Would small businesses offer health insurance or sick days as a result of the reduced financial pressure?

We know that it took legislation to get restaurants to charge the SFHSO fee and use it to pay for health insurance, and it wouldn&#039;t be different with other kinds of businesses.  If Valencia businesses were so progressive and concerned about their workers as to justify protection from AA, would they not have done something innovative like collect SFHSO donations and pool the proceeds to help their employees?

I think a lot of people here need to stop mythologizing small businesses.  Keeping revenues local is not a victory when it doesn&#039;t actually benefit working people.  In virtually every case, the only people who make a living wage from them are the owners and their families.  Profits don&#039;t trickle down to workers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt G writes: &#8220;The author did not mention any more threatening problems she thought people should work on.&#8221;</p>
<p>As much as I dislike her tone, she does.  She suggests that commercial vacancies are a problem and that property standards are low as a result.  She says that the neighborhood needs more jobs like AA&#8217;s ($30k salary + health insurance.)  She says that the city would benefit from the increased tax revenue &#8211; every city&#8217;s revenues are being drastically cut this year.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand what was gained here.  People in the Mission like AA the brand and wear AA clothing.  So why protect a small business that sells AA from AA at the expense of workers?  Health insurance for workers is surely one of the most important things in our country, and small businesses in the Mission are not offering it.</p>
<p>You might cite high commercial rents as the reason why small businesses on Valencia can&#8217;t offer health insurance (which would be relatively cheap given their mostly young and healthy workforce.)  But let&#8217;s say that neighborhood activists got a commercial rent control ordinance passed (a worthy solution, perhaps).  Would small businesses offer health insurance or sick days as a result of the reduced financial pressure?</p>
<p>We know that it took legislation to get restaurants to charge the SFHSO fee and use it to pay for health insurance, and it wouldn&#8217;t be different with other kinds of businesses.  If Valencia businesses were so progressive and concerned about their workers as to justify protection from AA, would they not have done something innovative like collect SFHSO donations and pool the proceeds to help their employees?</p>
<p>I think a lot of people here need to stop mythologizing small businesses.  Keeping revenues local is not a victory when it doesn&#8217;t actually benefit working people.  In virtually every case, the only people who make a living wage from them are the owners and their families.  Profits don&#8217;t trickle down to workers.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These must be the most clever, most deceptive, most terrifying, maybe even delicious Half-Truths.  Magical at the very least.

I say that because Half-Truths don&#039;t usually make people show up to a hearing from 1:30pm til 7pm.

I know I showed up because I was told that if I didn&#039;t go that Roe v. Wade was gonna be overturned and that there was free ice cream.  It&#039;s a hard lifestyle trying to make people believe I am progressive.

unbelievable delicious]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These must be the most clever, most deceptive, most terrifying, maybe even delicious Half-Truths.  Magical at the very least.</p>
<p>I say that because Half-Truths don&#8217;t usually make people show up to a hearing from 1:30pm til 7pm.</p>
<p>I know I showed up because I was told that if I didn&#8217;t go that Roe v. Wade was gonna be overturned and that there was free ice cream.  It&#8217;s a hard lifestyle trying to make people believe I am progressive.</p>
<p>unbelievable delicious</p>
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		<title>By: guero</title>
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		<dc:creator>guero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 07:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[American Apparel appears to be gearing up to open in Tijuana. I wonder if folks there are banging out whiny blabber on retro typewriters. I seriously doubt the citizens of Tijuana could even comprehend the self-righteous idiocy that only spoiled brat gringos can afford. I know I can&#039;t.
http://tijuanatales.wordpress.com/2009/01/29/american-apparel/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>American Apparel appears to be gearing up to open in Tijuana. I wonder if folks there are banging out whiny blabber on retro typewriters. I seriously doubt the citizens of Tijuana could even comprehend the self-righteous idiocy that only spoiled brat gringos can afford. I know I can&#8217;t.<br />
<a href="http://tijuanatales.wordpress.com/2009/01/29/american-apparel/" rel="nofollow">http://tijuanatales.wordpress.com/2009/01/29/american-apparel/</a></p>
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		<title>By: A Paul D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Paul D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 06:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[zinzin wrote: ...my guess is a lot of folks were either duped by half-truths as put forward by the anti-AA “movement”, or didn’t give the whole thing a lot of thought, or really just like to jump on bandwagons....&quot;

Keep quessing zinzin.  Eventually you might be right. But, sadly, not quite yet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zinzin wrote: &#8230;my guess is a lot of folks were either duped by half-truths as put forward by the anti-AA “movement”, or didn’t give the whole thing a lot of thought, or really just like to jump on bandwagons&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Keep quessing zinzin.  Eventually you might be right. But, sadly, not quite yet.</p>
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		<title>By: A Paul D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Paul D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 06:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@clapback wrote: ... Talk to your friends, a lot of people who love the Mission were not opposed to the AA opening. I wasn’t.&quot;

That&#039;s one of the wonderful things about a constitutional republic system.  It&#039;s designed for the people that bother to show up and speak out.

And so as irony would have it, these &quot;friends&quot; you&#039;re referring to are the very definition of insular.  But actually I seriously doubt there are any &quot;friends.&quot;  You might as well be saying your point of view is valid because that lots of people sent you emails saying they&#039;re not against it.  It&#039;s unverifiable,  self-referential and therefore total b.s.  Which gives us a fair viewpoint on your objectivity - read: lackthereof.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@clapback wrote: &#8230; Talk to your friends, a lot of people who love the Mission were not opposed to the AA opening. I wasn’t.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s one of the wonderful things about a constitutional republic system.  It&#8217;s designed for the people that bother to show up and speak out.</p>
<p>And so as irony would have it, these &#8220;friends&#8221; you&#8217;re referring to are the very definition of insular.  But actually I seriously doubt there are any &#8220;friends.&#8221;  You might as well be saying your point of view is valid because that lots of people sent you emails saying they&#8217;re not against it.  It&#8217;s unverifiable,  self-referential and therefore total b.s.  Which gives us a fair viewpoint on your objectivity &#8211; read: lackthereof.</p>
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		<title>By: sangroncito</title>
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		<dc:creator>sangroncito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 02:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I oppose formula retail stores in neighborhoods on principal so I opposed the AA opening on Valencia St. Since I had never stepped foot in an AA store before, my curiousity got the better of me and I stopped in the AA store on Grant St. After all the hoopla I imagined that it must carry some pretty special stuff...but...what a dump!  The clothing was a big yawn. I walked out feeling that the neighborhood was right in keeping a chain t-shirt store out of the Mission.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I oppose formula retail stores in neighborhoods on principal so I opposed the AA opening on Valencia St. Since I had never stepped foot in an AA store before, my curiousity got the better of me and I stopped in the AA store on Grant St. After all the hoopla I imagined that it must carry some pretty special stuff&#8230;but&#8230;what a dump!  The clothing was a big yawn. I walked out feeling that the neighborhood was right in keeping a chain t-shirt store out of the Mission.</p>
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		<title>By: Neo Displacer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neo Displacer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I loved her riff on magical. Valencia, magical indeed. A place where wrong is righteous, and hip is really uncool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved her riff on magical. Valencia, magical indeed. A place where wrong is righteous, and hip is really uncool.</p>
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		<title>By: Brock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 20:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...anyone who has picked up a newspaper in the last five months...&quot;

Aw.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;anyone who has picked up a newspaper in the last five months&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Aw.</p>
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		<title>By: zinzin</title>
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		<dc:creator>zinzin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 20:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[sigh. thing about it is, while i am sure many people really do have a great personal distaste for &quot;formula retail&quot;, my guess is a lot of folks were either duped by half-truths as put forward by the anti-AA &quot;movement&quot;, or didn&#039;t give the whole thing a lot of thought, or really just like to jump on bandwagons.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sigh. thing about it is, while i am sure many people really do have a great personal distaste for &#8220;formula retail&#8221;, my guess is a lot of folks were either duped by half-truths as put forward by the anti-AA &#8220;movement&#8221;, or didn&#8217;t give the whole thing a lot of thought, or really just like to jump on bandwagons.</p>
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