Comments on: Duc Loi Market Now Open at 18th and Mission: Impressive Selection, Reasonable Prices, Clean and Bright

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By: Weekend distractions « Queeristan - everywhere you are

Weekend distractions « Queeristan - everywhere you are — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:40:14 +0000

[...] this weekend I would catch up. Yesterday I got up early and instead of writing went to the new Duc Loi market on Mission at 18th, because I wanted to get some fresh produce and meat for an Indian [...]

By: zinzin

zinzin — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:51:57 +0000

@ Josh – “Since then the powers that be have realized how lame and destructive that is to neighborhoods, and the Eastern Neighborhoods plan does away with those, even imposing parking MAXIMUMS, which are awesome and great.”

that IS awesome. i didn’t know. hopefully it paves the way for better planning AND more housing.

and la palma is still there too.

By: Josh

Josh — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:03:04 +0000

I remember when St Francis was really St Francis, and when the candy factory was … well, a candy factory not a bougie clothing store. :-/ Sad times but it happens I guess. At least La Mexicana is still there.

Regarding parking, I assume the building was planned and permitted when the first round of demo and building started, at which time there were indeed parking minimums. Since then the powers that be have realized how lame and destructive that is to neighborhoods, and the Eastern Neighborhoods plan does away with those, even imposing parking MAXIMUMS, which are awesome and great.

By: Today’s Mission: 02.18.09 | Mission Loc@l

Today’s Mission: 02.18.09 | Mission Loc@l — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 07:00:38 +0000

[...] it coming for some time now, and today, the Duc Loi Market on 18th and Mission is finally open. Mission Mission has the review. Looks clean, looks reasonable, and liquor in two [...]

By: SFDoggy

SFDoggy — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:06:33 +0000

Wang Fat is apparently going to be turned into a “wine bar” of some sort, though they are avoiding that term. I assume that it will be like Weird Fish, casual funky and moderately priced — seems like a good addition to the neighborhood.

And, I am definitely hitting Duc Loi today.

By: zinzin

zinzin — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:21:05 +0000

@ josh – isn’t it the law that they MUST have a certain amount of parking to build condos? maybe elevating it was cheaper than excavating underground…?

that said, if Weird Fish is any indicator, the little cafe they’re opening on the corner (that’s where the fish store was, right?) will probably do pretty well.

there was something about it on eatersf the other day. they’re nice people, part of the boogaloo family of eateries (boogaloo, weird fish, st francis, now this…there may be others). long time mission dwellers.

By: Josh

Josh — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:10:50 +0000

I’m glad it has (finally) reopened as the same great neighborhood resource it was before it closed (and sat there) rather than trying to be converted into a hipster yuppie boutique that’s doomed to failure like the poor Wang Fat Fish Market across the street.

But the building is vomit-inducing… and a second-floor parking garage?!! On the busiest transit street in the city?!!

By: zinzin

zinzin — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:02:08 +0000

sorry about the link.

http://www.sfarmls.com

you can search from there.

By: giant fur diaper

giant fur diaper — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:01:50 +0000

@erich, it might seem like just a cheap sign but maybe that was intended. This way it doesn’t cost any electricity, fees for permits and public hearing on neighborhood impact of said sign, electrician charges, crane maintenance to replace bulbs and occasional repairs as well as design and art fees to make the sign. Save the occasional drop of a letter, oh what every ten years, the upkeep on this one is nothing more than going down the street to the sign shop and having a new plexiglass character cut and a brief scissor-lift rental to stick it up there.

By: zinzin

zinzin — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:00:47 +0000

hmm. i agree on the sign. from a marketing point of view, a little aesthetic appeal for the…uh…cool kid crowd would probably drive business. i’m there tonight whipping up dinner either way.

condos, i just looked this up…

http://sfarmls.rapmls.com/scripts/mgrqispi.dll

seems like a 1/1 @ 750sft for 450K is on the low end of market rate? guy i know just spent 325K for 300sft at Cubix (not that he’s any kind of genius).

a 4/2 @ 1400sft is a little tight, for 650K.

market is a bloodbath on the sell side…if it’s true that f&f is lower end…. i bet they’d bargain.

By: erich

erich — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:35:01 +0000

I was in the Duc Loi as well. Once the rest of the inventory arrives it’ll be great.

From what I understand, the condos are market rate. I also hear (from a realtor) they didn’t spend as much as they should have for the fit and finish. I see open houses every weekend and no one going in.

It also surprised me that given the amount they spent on the building, they still managed to put up a very cheap sign on the Duc Loi. I think a few extra bucks would go a long way for their business.

By: zinzin

zinzin — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:27:44 +0000

anyone know anything about the condos up above? market rate? affordable? family oriented?

By: giant fur diaper

giant fur diaper — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:15:59 +0000

Yay! I peeked in the other day and it looks massive. I’ve been waiting, what, three years for it to open back up? Thank you jebus!

By: fsharp

fsharp — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:04:57 +0000

It’s refreshing to see a positive story about something going on in The Real Mission. You could travel around the world buying your food on Mission street and still spend less than 1/3 you would spend shopping at Bi-Rite. The writer’s enthusiasm is infectious!