Comments on: Graffiti Vs. Billboards

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By: zinzin

zinzin — Wed, 27 May 2009 22:07:45 +0000

yeah….i guess everyone’s world experience is their own.

my own personal small-worlded experience involves over 20 years of working with, living with, being related to, collaborating with, patronizing, supporting, bailing out of jail, drinking with, being married to, traveling the world with…all sorts of artists. dozens of em.

i myself have found it in my own personal experience to pursue an artistic endeavor or two. though i would never call myself an artist.

so you can call me names all you want pally, and make any sort of snide comments about me & my exposure to “the world”…because i deign not to laud your every hallowed artistic step….

but in doing so, you’re just proving my fucking point.

also, when i said “self absorbed in some way”, i actually meant it as a compliment and a defense regarding artists in general. and you in particular.

so there ya go.

By: Eddie

Eddie — Wed, 27 May 2009 17:08:42 +0000

I strongly disagree that artists are all self absorbed. There is a strong tradition of political art and art that cultivates social change. These are not selfish endeavors. Look at any major political or social movement and you will find artists participating, with no expectation of personal gain. To say that artists are self absorbed highlights a certain amount of ignorance about art history. While it may be true in your experience it is important, when forming opinions, to realize there is a very big world out there, outside of your experience.

By: Eddie

Eddie — Wed, 27 May 2009 16:59:41 +0000

Sfdoggy,
There is quite a bit of evidence that people are interested in what I have to say. I could cite the 6 books in which my work will be featured this year or a talk I gave a UC Hastings school of Law in SF or just the occasional passer by who tells me they love my work. I suspect you’ve never even seen one of my pieces. You are apparently one of these knobs who thinks, if you don’t know about something than it doesn’t exist. I don’t think what I am doing is rude, when I get up in the morning open my window and stare out at the 60 foot cool ranch dorito that dominates my view, I think that’s kinda rude. I am Happy you think my theories are “fancy”. I thought they were just kind of obvious but I like the certain panache of having fancy theories. Also I generally work on publicly owned surfaces not private property. So before you jump to conclusions check out what I do first, you might like some of it.

By: Eddie

Eddie — Wed, 27 May 2009 16:42:15 +0000

Tea,
I’m not trying to be better than anyone, I am trying to participate and be included. It’s funny how people only are bothered by the opinions and aesthetic preferences of “street artists” but they quietly tolerate the advertising which out numbers it 10 fold. I’m not interested in living in a sanitized environment, if I were I would move to Mountain View or something like that. I agree there is a lot of crap out there, but certainly it is no where near the amount of crap advertising. My statement wasn’t a rationale, it was in response to a question. I don’t need to rationalize it, I’m not asking for your permission or your support. Your seemingly blind adherence to rules seems a bit wonky.

By: jimbeam

jimbeam — Thu, 21 May 2009 14:14:20 +0000

It’s true. This sort of response completely avoids the actual argument and instead is just an ad hominem. Not really surprising, though.

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Suriya Bye (Elephants Never Forget) « Burrito Justice — Thu, 21 May 2009 05:15:04 +0000

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By: mark

mark — Wed, 20 May 2009 23:54:02 +0000

this discussion always degenerates into someone saying “why don’t you post your address then?” or “how about i come spraypaint something you own?”

do you think people that defend graffiti or street art don’t in fact know what it is, or have never had their building tagged? they are not at liberty to discuss the topic until they put their address on the internet?

goofy.

By: zinzin

zinzin — Wed, 20 May 2009 22:08:57 +0000

i agree with you on all levels, except in the comparison with homicide.

By: SFDoggy

SFDoggy — Wed, 20 May 2009 21:54:53 +0000

You may be right that these people won’t change. Just like gang members won’t stop killing others. But that doesn’t mean that we can’t point out that there is something wrong with it.

By: SFDoggy

SFDoggy — Wed, 20 May 2009 21:53:59 +0000

Well then please post your address so the graffiti vandals can tag where you live. Otherwise you are just spouting nonsense.

By: SFDoggy

SFDoggy — Wed, 20 May 2009 21:51:37 +0000

Interesting though that graffiti vandalism is illegal and I suspect any attempt to repeal that law would go down quicker than Prop 1A. As I say it really comes down to a matter of respect for your community — which the vandals don’t have.

By: Allan Hough

Allan Hough — Wed, 20 May 2009 21:01:47 +0000

Nope, just a billboard. Click through to the rest of the article to see the accompanying graffiti shot.