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	<title>Comments on: SF DPW: Painting Over Graffiti on Private Residences?</title>
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		<title>By: godiknow</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/03/sf-dpw-painting-over-graffiti-on-private-residences/#comment-7301</link>
		<dc:creator>godiknow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 00:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[failedstate my boy you are woefully mistaken.  the city absolutely does not wait until they get &#039;dozens of complaints&#039; nor do they wait &#039;at least 30 days&#039; before they give notice.

actually, they hire a knob (or a few knobs) around with the sole purpose of spotting graffiti so the city can pad its&#039; coffers.  yes the original idea of keeping the city devoid of graffiti is a noble one but these hyperactive, keen-eyed knobs are overzealous.

additionally, they often send the notice to the wrong building owner: i just spent hours on the phone and writing letters to prove i am not the owner of my neighbor&#039;s building which was recently tagged.

these snarky city employees rank right up there with parking enforcement officers, i mean meter maids.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>failedstate my boy you are woefully mistaken.  the city absolutely does not wait until they get &#8216;dozens of complaints&#8217; nor do they wait &#8216;at least 30 days&#8217; before they give notice.</p>
<p>actually, they hire a knob (or a few knobs) around with the sole purpose of spotting graffiti so the city can pad its&#8217; coffers.  yes the original idea of keeping the city devoid of graffiti is a noble one but these hyperactive, keen-eyed knobs are overzealous.</p>
<p>additionally, they often send the notice to the wrong building owner: i just spent hours on the phone and writing letters to prove i am not the owner of my neighbor&#8217;s building which was recently tagged.</p>
<p>these snarky city employees rank right up there with parking enforcement officers, i mean meter maids.</p>
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		<title>By: graffiti stinks</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/03/sf-dpw-painting-over-graffiti-on-private-residences/#comment-7300</link>
		<dc:creator>graffiti stinks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 02:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The apartment owner is out of touch with her property if she brags about once a month painting as if it is enough.   Graffiti must be cleaned up within 2 days of when it occurs, and it will come back six or more times, then the idiots go elsewhere.

The apartment owner Nicolas is saying that he is not really trying to do the job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The apartment owner is out of touch with her property if she brags about once a month painting as if it is enough.   Graffiti must be cleaned up within 2 days of when it occurs, and it will come back six or more times, then the idiots go elsewhere.</p>
<p>The apartment owner Nicolas is saying that he is not really trying to do the job.</p>
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		<title>By: Avery St. Clair</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/03/sf-dpw-painting-over-graffiti-on-private-residences/#comment-7299</link>
		<dc:creator>Avery St. Clair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Graffiti is vandalism.  It is subversive in intent and destructive in practice.  It blights our city and degrades our lives.

Paint out those tags the MOMENT they arrive.  Photograph the vandals and call the cops.  Fight this infection every way you can.

Respect your City = Respect Yourself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graffiti is vandalism.  It is subversive in intent and destructive in practice.  It blights our city and degrades our lives.</p>
<p>Paint out those tags the MOMENT they arrive.  Photograph the vandals and call the cops.  Fight this infection every way you can.</p>
<p>Respect your City = Respect Yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: The Property Owner</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/03/sf-dpw-painting-over-graffiti-on-private-residences/#comment-7298</link>
		<dc:creator>The Property Owner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To hear that we as the Owner let the graffitti sit there is absolutely ridiculous.  We paint that wall at least once a month, and it is tagged before it even dries!

This is a letter sent to the tenants of the property:

December 9, 2009

ALL TENANTS
3241-3247 23rd Street
San Francisco, CA 94110

	RE:	Mural Project

Dear Tenants,

As you are well aware, for many years we have been dealing with a graffiti problem at the property.  In the past we have always covered up the graffiti, but in some instances the paint is not dry, before it is ‘tagged’ again.

In an effort to stop this nuisance and contribute to the neighborhood, we have begun working with the San Francisco Arts Commission in hopes of having a mural on the property rather than ugly graffiti.  We have taken all the preliminary steps in this process, but would now like your input as well.  Being that it is your home we have included a package of three artists who are the current candidates for a mural project.  Please review the package and give us any feedback as to your preference of artist, we are also open to suggestions as to the theme of the mural.

We appreciate any feedback and patience as we work on this project.  We are the first such property and owner/management group working with the San Francisco Arts Commission, so there is not a step by step guide for us to follow!

Should there be any questions, please feel free to contact our office at the below-mentioned information.
Sincerely,

Nicholas Scarabosio
Jackson Group Property Management]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To hear that we as the Owner let the graffitti sit there is absolutely ridiculous.  We paint that wall at least once a month, and it is tagged before it even dries!</p>
<p>This is a letter sent to the tenants of the property:</p>
<p>December 9, 2009</p>
<p>ALL TENANTS<br />
3241-3247 23rd Street<br />
San Francisco, CA 94110</p>
<p>	RE:	Mural Project</p>
<p>Dear Tenants,</p>
<p>As you are well aware, for many years we have been dealing with a graffiti problem at the property.  In the past we have always covered up the graffiti, but in some instances the paint is not dry, before it is ‘tagged’ again.</p>
<p>In an effort to stop this nuisance and contribute to the neighborhood, we have begun working with the San Francisco Arts Commission in hopes of having a mural on the property rather than ugly graffiti.  We have taken all the preliminary steps in this process, but would now like your input as well.  Being that it is your home we have included a package of three artists who are the current candidates for a mural project.  Please review the package and give us any feedback as to your preference of artist, we are also open to suggestions as to the theme of the mural.</p>
<p>We appreciate any feedback and patience as we work on this project.  We are the first such property and owner/management group working with the San Francisco Arts Commission, so there is not a step by step guide for us to follow!</p>
<p>Should there be any questions, please feel free to contact our office at the below-mentioned information.<br />
Sincerely,</p>
<p>Nicholas Scarabosio<br />
Jackson Group Property Management</p>
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		<title>By: NatMcNasty</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/03/sf-dpw-painting-over-graffiti-on-private-residences/#comment-7297</link>
		<dc:creator>NatMcNasty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Graffiti Crew will warn the owner, cite the owner, and eventually paint the &quot;tagged area&quot; at the expese of the owner. If it is deemed offensive, gang related, or the crew is in a good mood sometimes they will cover the graffiti free of charge. This is done as a courtesy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Graffiti Crew will warn the owner, cite the owner, and eventually paint the &#8220;tagged area&#8221; at the expese of the owner. If it is deemed offensive, gang related, or the crew is in a good mood sometimes they will cover the graffiti free of charge. This is done as a courtesy.</p>
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		<title>By: Street Art &#38; Me</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/03/sf-dpw-painting-over-graffiti-on-private-residences/#comment-7296</link>
		<dc:creator>Street Art &#38; Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Would love to see that wall personally, specially when it causes so many comments.

BEsts]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would love to see that wall personally, specially when it causes so many comments.</p>
<p>BEsts</p>
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		<title>By: failedstate</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/03/sf-dpw-painting-over-graffiti-on-private-residences/#comment-7295</link>
		<dc:creator>failedstate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 04:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not a Scam.
The property owner has left that graffiti in place for  months. They painted over it only twice since December.
http://tinyurl.com/mvzrnp

The city doesn&#039;t come out and paint the property until they get dozens of complaints and even then they wait for at least 30 days after giving a notice. I know you think it&#039;s art but it looks like shit when you walk by it day after day.

It&#039;s about time the city stepped in and did something.

It&#039;s time to get a mural on that wall and the one at 23rd and Folsom (Drake Court).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a Scam.<br />
The property owner has left that graffiti in place for  months. They painted over it only twice since December.<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/mvzrnp" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/mvzrnp</a></p>
<p>The city doesn&#8217;t come out and paint the property until they get dozens of complaints and even then they wait for at least 30 days after giving a notice. I know you think it&#8217;s art but it looks like shit when you walk by it day after day.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s about time the city stepped in and did something.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to get a mural on that wall and the one at 23rd and Folsom (Drake Court).</p>
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		<title>By: dogfella</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/03/sf-dpw-painting-over-graffiti-on-private-residences/#comment-7294</link>
		<dc:creator>dogfella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 13:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe there are reasons for it that I don&#039;t know but it would seem to me to make sense to plant vines / bushes along high graffiti buildings. This would pretty much eliminate the problem and help green the city.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe there are reasons for it that I don&#8217;t know but it would seem to me to make sense to plant vines / bushes along high graffiti buildings. This would pretty much eliminate the problem and help green the city.</p>
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		<title>By: A neighbor</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/03/sf-dpw-painting-over-graffiti-on-private-residences/#comment-7293</link>
		<dc:creator>A neighbor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 04:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No sympathy for the property owner, they let the graffiti just sit there for months until not so long ago. It&#039;s true that recently, it gets hit up within a day or two after each repainting. I totally agree with others that the owner should stop fooling around and just make the call to a respected muralist. Hell, I&#039;d even chip in to subsidize if they passed a hat around!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No sympathy for the property owner, they let the graffiti just sit there for months until not so long ago. It&#8217;s true that recently, it gets hit up within a day or two after each repainting. I totally agree with others that the owner should stop fooling around and just make the call to a respected muralist. Hell, I&#8217;d even chip in to subsidize if they passed a hat around!</p>
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		<title>By: SFDoggy</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/03/sf-dpw-painting-over-graffiti-on-private-residences/#comment-7292</link>
		<dc:creator>SFDoggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen.</p>
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		<title>By: Watchful Eye</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/03/sf-dpw-painting-over-graffiti-on-private-residences/#comment-7291</link>
		<dc:creator>Watchful Eye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do not know why this property is such a &quot;prize&quot; for tagging, the owner has tried to keep up with it, but can only do so much.  Yes, a mural might be a better answer and I&#039;m sure the owner would be open to that, because the tagging is just so way out of hand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not know why this property is such a &#8220;prize&#8221; for tagging, the owner has tried to keep up with it, but can only do so much.  Yes, a mural might be a better answer and I&#8217;m sure the owner would be open to that, because the tagging is just so way out of hand.</p>
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		<title>By: zinzin</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/03/sf-dpw-painting-over-graffiti-on-private-residences/#comment-7290</link>
		<dc:creator>zinzin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[in my experience, 2 things are true:

murals get tagged less - look at the murals on 19th @ mission...it&#039;s tag central there, and while they&#039;ve both needed touch-ups, it&#039;s only over years

consistent painting over of tags, over time, makes the place a less attractive canvas - commercial wall on my block was ALWAYS tagged up when i moved in 3 years ago. owner was not doing anything about it, not willing to do anything. i got them to give me the paint (matching color), and i painted over the tags immediately. often i painted over tags 4 times in one week. now, after months at it, the wall doesn&#039;t get tagged at all (of course, it&#039;ll be tagged today cause i wrote this). but it&#039;s worth a try...

though i like murals better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in my experience, 2 things are true:</p>
<p>murals get tagged less &#8211; look at the murals on 19th @ mission&#8230;it&#8217;s tag central there, and while they&#8217;ve both needed touch-ups, it&#8217;s only over years</p>
<p>consistent painting over of tags, over time, makes the place a less attractive canvas &#8211; commercial wall on my block was ALWAYS tagged up when i moved in 3 years ago. owner was not doing anything about it, not willing to do anything. i got them to give me the paint (matching color), and i painted over the tags immediately. often i painted over tags 4 times in one week. now, after months at it, the wall doesn&#8217;t get tagged at all (of course, it&#8217;ll be tagged today cause i wrote this). but it&#8217;s worth a try&#8230;</p>
<p>though i like murals better.</p>
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		<title>By: resident of the building</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/03/sf-dpw-painting-over-graffiti-on-private-residences/#comment-7289</link>
		<dc:creator>resident of the building</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i LIVE in this building. so imagine how much i love the way it looks...

and it&#039;s true. it gets painted over about 5 minutes after it gets painted. I am not sure how much of bill is being footed by the owner vs. the city but i often wonder if a mural project might help.

does anyone have experience with this? could partering with precita eyes or another like minded institution help us? do buildings that have invested time into community mural projects get tagged LESS?

any advice would be welcome!!

Thanks!
-someone who actually lives here]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i LIVE in this building. so imagine how much i love the way it looks&#8230;</p>
<p>and it&#8217;s true. it gets painted over about 5 minutes after it gets painted. I am not sure how much of bill is being footed by the owner vs. the city but i often wonder if a mural project might help.</p>
<p>does anyone have experience with this? could partering with precita eyes or another like minded institution help us? do buildings that have invested time into community mural projects get tagged LESS?</p>
<p>any advice would be welcome!!</p>
<p>Thanks!<br />
-someone who actually lives here</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I live nearby, and the owner is just not keeping on top of it.  There was a three- or four-month period that it just got worse and worse, and if you don&#039;t keep on top of the situation it&#039;s like animals pissing to cover each other&#039;s scent.  So I don&#039;t have much sympathy for the building owner beyond the fact he&#039;s getting tagged so much.  It&#039;s definitely time to get Precita Eyes involved in making something beautiful out of a bad situation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live nearby, and the owner is just not keeping on top of it.  There was a three- or four-month period that it just got worse and worse, and if you don&#8217;t keep on top of the situation it&#8217;s like animals pissing to cover each other&#8217;s scent.  So I don&#8217;t have much sympathy for the building owner beyond the fact he&#8217;s getting tagged so much.  It&#8217;s definitely time to get Precita Eyes involved in making something beautiful out of a bad situation.</p>
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		<title>By: 17 year local</title>
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		<dc:creator>17 year local</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A) contact precita eyes.  they may be able to coordinate a mural for your building.
B) i believe there is free buff paint available through the city dump.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A) contact precita eyes.  they may be able to coordinate a mural for your building.<br />
B) i believe there is free buff paint available through the city dump.</p>
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