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		<title>By: Sunday Streets in the Mission TODAY &#171; Mission Mission</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/08/sunday-streets-wrap-up/#comment-7395</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunday Streets in the Mission TODAY &#171; Mission Mission</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 10:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/08/sunday-streets-wrap-up/#comment-7394</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 06:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Laura only reads/speaks Chinese.]]></description>
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		<title>By: mattymatt</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/08/sunday-streets-wrap-up/#comment-7393</link>
		<dc:creator>mattymatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 01:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think anyone&#039;s advocating for &lt;i&gt;no&lt;/i&gt; cars on &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; streets -- just putting them a little bit lower on our list of city priorities.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone&#8217;s advocating for <i>no</i> cars on <i>any</i> streets &#8212; just putting them a little bit lower on our list of city priorities.</p>
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		<title>By: jimbeam</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/08/sunday-streets-wrap-up/#comment-7392</link>
		<dc:creator>jimbeam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 01:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t like cars, don&#039;t own one, etc., but come on.  A lot of people use cars because it&#039;s how they get to work.  California (yes, even the much vaunted liberal paradise that is the Bay Area) is designed in such a way that the cheapest, most efficient way for people to go to work is via automobile (not to mention dropping kids off at school, etc. etc. etc.).

It&#039;s just silly to talk about all streets having no cars.  And, as Zizin pointed out, cars are paid for.  Cars actually subsidize SF city programs through parking tickets (something like $30M was collected in 2007 from parking tickets).

Advocating for NO cars makes way less sense than advocating for smarter car use and better city planning when it comes to public transport and bike lanes and just garbles the message with extremism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t like cars, don&#8217;t own one, etc., but come on.  A lot of people use cars because it&#8217;s how they get to work.  California (yes, even the much vaunted liberal paradise that is the Bay Area) is designed in such a way that the cheapest, most efficient way for people to go to work is via automobile (not to mention dropping kids off at school, etc. etc. etc.).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just silly to talk about all streets having no cars.  And, as Zizin pointed out, cars are paid for.  Cars actually subsidize SF city programs through parking tickets (something like $30M was collected in 2007 from parking tickets).</p>
<p>Advocating for NO cars makes way less sense than advocating for smarter car use and better city planning when it comes to public transport and bike lanes and just garbles the message with extremism.</p>
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		<title>By: mattymatt</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/08/sunday-streets-wrap-up/#comment-7391</link>
		<dc:creator>mattymatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Susan, for all the info. It sounds like you did a lot to accommodate car owners: going door-to-door, putting out signs, and shutting down the entire event early so that cars could take over the street again.

Now, imagine if Sunday Streets didn&#039;t have to do some much for cars -- if the volunteers could spend their time on other things, and the festival could go on all day long. It sure would be nice.

Like I&#039;ve said -- when an event like Sunday Streets is forced to go to great lengths to accommodate cars, ever car is a burden.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Susan, for all the info. It sounds like you did a lot to accommodate car owners: going door-to-door, putting out signs, and shutting down the entire event early so that cars could take over the street again.</p>
<p>Now, imagine if Sunday Streets didn&#8217;t have to do some much for cars &#8212; if the volunteers could spend their time on other things, and the festival could go on all day long. It sure would be nice.</p>
<p>Like I&#8217;ve said &#8212; when an event like Sunday Streets is forced to go to great lengths to accommodate cars, ever car is a burden.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/08/sunday-streets-wrap-up/#comment-7390</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sunday Streets organizer responds:
Thank you for Mission Mission&#039;s coverage of Sunday Streets, and thank you all for your feedback on our June 7 event in the Mission District. We&#039;ll be taking this into account as we plan for the July 19 event.

On Parking and towing:
The PD ran the plates of each car before they had it towed, and if the address was nearby, they went to the house and asked the owner to move their car. Signs were posted at least 72 hours in advance, placed every 20 feet along the entire route. Additional 4 ft x 4 ft signs were posted along the route 10 days in advance.

City Parking code specifically prohibits parking for more than 72 hours (article 10.2.6) www.municode.com/content/4201/1414/HTML/ach010.html, which is probably why we are required to post signs for at least 72 hours.

Outreach: We did what we could with virtually no funding for marketing- fliers on cars, posters in shops, emails to neighborhood lists, etc. but understand this effort did not reach everyone in the neighborhood. Our media outreach for this event was lighter than previous events because we were concerned that if we did TOO much publicity, the event would have been beyond capacity. It is a delicate balance. We are ramping up our local outreach to the neighborhood for July 19.

Who covers event costs: Sunday Streets costs are underwritten by our generous corporate and community sponsors. Additional in-kind support and our tremendous volunteers keep costs down.

Finally, the hours of 10:00 am to 2:00 pm are to accommodate the demand for the streets- traffic significantly increases on Sunday afternoons, which is why we have the events on Sunday mornings, when traffic is the lightest.

Thanks again for the great dialogue and for the support of Sunday Streets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunday Streets organizer responds:<br />
Thank you for Mission Mission&#8217;s coverage of Sunday Streets, and thank you all for your feedback on our June 7 event in the Mission District. We&#8217;ll be taking this into account as we plan for the July 19 event.</p>
<p>On Parking and towing:<br />
The PD ran the plates of each car before they had it towed, and if the address was nearby, they went to the house and asked the owner to move their car. Signs were posted at least 72 hours in advance, placed every 20 feet along the entire route. Additional 4 ft x 4 ft signs were posted along the route 10 days in advance.</p>
<p>City Parking code specifically prohibits parking for more than 72 hours (article 10.2.6) <a href="http://www.municode.com/content/4201/1414/HTML/ach010.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.municode.com/content/4201/1414/HTML/ach010.html</a>, which is probably why we are required to post signs for at least 72 hours.</p>
<p>Outreach: We did what we could with virtually no funding for marketing- fliers on cars, posters in shops, emails to neighborhood lists, etc. but understand this effort did not reach everyone in the neighborhood. Our media outreach for this event was lighter than previous events because we were concerned that if we did TOO much publicity, the event would have been beyond capacity. It is a delicate balance. We are ramping up our local outreach to the neighborhood for July 19.</p>
<p>Who covers event costs: Sunday Streets costs are underwritten by our generous corporate and community sponsors. Additional in-kind support and our tremendous volunteers keep costs down.</p>
<p>Finally, the hours of 10:00 am to 2:00 pm are to accommodate the demand for the streets- traffic significantly increases on Sunday afternoons, which is why we have the events on Sunday mornings, when traffic is the lightest.</p>
<p>Thanks again for the great dialogue and for the support of Sunday Streets.</p>
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		<title>By: zinzin</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/08/sunday-streets-wrap-up/#comment-7389</link>
		<dc:creator>zinzin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i actually think the notion that &quot;city streets were never meant to be free storage space for your property&quot; is in fact a little fanatical - parking is generally not free (meters, neighborhood permits, city fees on registration etc), and at the bottom line, people in the states love having cars. that&#039;s just the reality.

just look around you, LOADS of cars, with one person in each car. do i think it&#039;s a good thing? meh. not really. but is it the truth? yeah it is. nearly 500K registered vehicles in SF (2009). well over 500K licensed drivers (it was 491K in 1996, 12 years ago).

and the cars have to go somewhere. parking spots on the streets seem a logical spot for them.

that said, i do agree with the &quot;Stop whining and deal with it&quot; notion. for both drivers and non-drivers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i actually think the notion that &#8220;city streets were never meant to be free storage space for your property&#8221; is in fact a little fanatical &#8211; parking is generally not free (meters, neighborhood permits, city fees on registration etc), and at the bottom line, people in the states love having cars. that&#8217;s just the reality.</p>
<p>just look around you, LOADS of cars, with one person in each car. do i think it&#8217;s a good thing? meh. not really. but is it the truth? yeah it is. nearly 500K registered vehicles in SF (2009). well over 500K licensed drivers (it was 491K in 1996, 12 years ago).</p>
<p>and the cars have to go somewhere. parking spots on the streets seem a logical spot for them.</p>
<p>that said, i do agree with the &#8220;Stop whining and deal with it&#8221; notion. for both drivers and non-drivers.</p>
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		<title>By: tea</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/08/sunday-streets-wrap-up/#comment-7388</link>
		<dc:creator>tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The mere invocation by some commenters of the term &quot;anti-car fanatic&quot; demonstrates just how in favor of cars everything is skewed. If you&#039;re in favor of livable, pleasant streets, then all of a sudden you&#039;re an anti-car fanatic. In fact city streets were never meant to be free storage space for your property. Car owners just behave that way.

BTW -- I volunteer for animal organizations as well, and work a hard and stressful job on the side. All the while, I&#039;m not parking my car where there are signs that I shouldn&#039;t be parking it there.

Stop whining and deal with it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mere invocation by some commenters of the term &#8220;anti-car fanatic&#8221; demonstrates just how in favor of cars everything is skewed. If you&#8217;re in favor of livable, pleasant streets, then all of a sudden you&#8217;re an anti-car fanatic. In fact city streets were never meant to be free storage space for your property. Car owners just behave that way.</p>
<p>BTW &#8212; I volunteer for animal organizations as well, and work a hard and stressful job on the side. All the while, I&#8217;m not parking my car where there are signs that I shouldn&#8217;t be parking it there.</p>
<p>Stop whining and deal with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/08/sunday-streets-wrap-up/#comment-7387</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;As for the Sunday Streets, I thought it was cooler in idea than execution. I was hoping for street stalls ect, but I guess the event was too short for that.&quot;

Definitely-- I was a bit puzzled it was only 10-2, but I guess it was traffic reasons or something?  I understand you want to run some trials at first, but I hope they work up to a longer event.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As for the Sunday Streets, I thought it was cooler in idea than execution. I was hoping for street stalls ect, but I guess the event was too short for that.&#8221;</p>
<p>Definitely&#8211; I was a bit puzzled it was only 10-2, but I guess it was traffic reasons or something?  I understand you want to run some trials at first, but I hope they work up to a longer event.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/08/sunday-streets-wrap-up/#comment-7386</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I got towed for sexy Jesus and was pretty pissed about it, but I&#039;ve come to expect getting towed once a year in the city.
Previous posters complain that they can notify everyone in person, and its true, but we live in the computer age. I&#039;ve never understood why the city doesn&#039;t implement a text messaging system for cars about to be towed. The parking department takes your phone number when you pay citations online, so surely they have a DB of phone and License plate numbers. Parking Enforcers could go through areas that are about to get massed towed, or cars that get 3-day notices, and send automated text messages/email saying your car is identified as being towed soon. Seems low cost to implement and would almost entirely negate bad feelings.

As for the Sunday Streets, I thought it was cooler in idea than execution. I was hoping for street stalls ect, but I guess the event was too short for that. Instead it looked like a bike marathon. You could tell the kids were excited to play in the forbidden street spaces; but when I get worried about stepping into the street for fear of getting hit by a bike then we sorta just replaced one hazard with another.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got towed for sexy Jesus and was pretty pissed about it, but I&#8217;ve come to expect getting towed once a year in the city.<br />
Previous posters complain that they can notify everyone in person, and its true, but we live in the computer age. I&#8217;ve never understood why the city doesn&#8217;t implement a text messaging system for cars about to be towed. The parking department takes your phone number when you pay citations online, so surely they have a DB of phone and License plate numbers. Parking Enforcers could go through areas that are about to get massed towed, or cars that get 3-day notices, and send automated text messages/email saying your car is identified as being towed soon. Seems low cost to implement and would almost entirely negate bad feelings.</p>
<p>As for the Sunday Streets, I thought it was cooler in idea than execution. I was hoping for street stalls ect, but I guess the event was too short for that. Instead it looked like a bike marathon. You could tell the kids were excited to play in the forbidden street spaces; but when I get worried about stepping into the street for fear of getting hit by a bike then we sorta just replaced one hazard with another.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Montgomery</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/08/sunday-streets-wrap-up/#comment-7385</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Montgomery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: turtles</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/08/sunday-streets-wrap-up/#comment-7384</link>
		<dc:creator>turtles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I saw signs at least a week in advance all over the mission on every single parking meter and light pole.  There were green flyers on cars all over.  The fact that Miss Miss chose to cover the complaints of a few scofflaw motorists to find &#039;controversy&#039; instead of talk about a really great community event in our neighborhood is rather unfortunate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw signs at least a week in advance all over the mission on every single parking meter and light pole.  There were green flyers on cars all over.  The fact that Miss Miss chose to cover the complaints of a few scofflaw motorists to find &#8216;controversy&#8217; instead of talk about a really great community event in our neighborhood is rather unfortunate.</p>
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		<title>By: erikakali</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/08/sunday-streets-wrap-up/#comment-7383</link>
		<dc:creator>erikakali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I got my car towed on Easter Sunday because of the Sexy Jesus contest.  Being new to the area, I parked my car on Dolores on Wednesday afternoon.  Easter Sunday I came out to find my car missing.

Since it was towed by SFPD, I had to go to the station to get it released from police custody.  The officer I talked to agreed with me that it is a completely unfair practice to have the city only be required to post those flimsy signs 3 days in advance before any festival.  It should be at least a week prior so in case people go out of town/only move their cars for street cleaning get enough warning to avoid the hassle of a $400 ticket.

I think that street fairs and all the festivals/parties/whatever are great, but give the people a little more notice before towing our cars!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got my car towed on Easter Sunday because of the Sexy Jesus contest.  Being new to the area, I parked my car on Dolores on Wednesday afternoon.  Easter Sunday I came out to find my car missing.</p>
<p>Since it was towed by SFPD, I had to go to the station to get it released from police custody.  The officer I talked to agreed with me that it is a completely unfair practice to have the city only be required to post those flimsy signs 3 days in advance before any festival.  It should be at least a week prior so in case people go out of town/only move their cars for street cleaning get enough warning to avoid the hassle of a $400 ticket.</p>
<p>I think that street fairs and all the festivals/parties/whatever are great, but give the people a little more notice before towing our cars!</p>
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		<title>By: c streets</title>
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		<dc:creator>c streets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what up!  i&#039;m a volunteer for this event, and part of my training was to take it to the streets on three occasions in which we set out on foot to flyer cars about the towing -- in both english and spanish.  we went out last monday, wednesday AND saturday before the event to flyer cars on and AROUND the route.  moreover, official towing signs were put up on thursday and then again on saturday.

sunday streets is amazing.  it encourages healthy lifestyles.  and all those &#039;white&#039; people that you may be complaining about, laura, hella helped out the neighborhood shops.  as a kid born and raised in the mission, i loved this event, and was so happy to see it come to my hood.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what up!  i&#8217;m a volunteer for this event, and part of my training was to take it to the streets on three occasions in which we set out on foot to flyer cars about the towing &#8212; in both english and spanish.  we went out last monday, wednesday AND saturday before the event to flyer cars on and AROUND the route.  moreover, official towing signs were put up on thursday and then again on saturday.</p>
<p>sunday streets is amazing.  it encourages healthy lifestyles.  and all those &#8216;white&#8217; people that you may be complaining about, laura, hella helped out the neighborhood shops.  as a kid born and raised in the mission, i loved this event, and was so happy to see it come to my hood.</p>
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		<title>By: guero</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/08/sunday-streets-wrap-up/#comment-7381</link>
		<dc:creator>guero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well first off, after attending Sunday on the Streets, I think the event without an doubt was a success and my 9 year-old son says he hopes they do it again soon. As for the tow trucks, I think the problem on our block was that PG&amp;E has been doing work and closing off parking from 7am to 5pm every weekday for the last 2 weeks (and there is still two more to go).The signs for that are much more prominent. I think some may have seen the smaller signs for the event and just associated them with the larger PG&amp;E ones and didn&#039;t bother reading them.
I actually know the head organizer as he is an old school mate of mine and a former Mission kid himself. I said something about this on Facebook and this was his response:
&quot;full public outreach - public meetings, flyers, posters to all merchants flyers at all churches, flyers on all cars for the past week along the route, email blasts, notices in newspapers, etc! Truly a successful event!&quot;

I can&#039;t say that we received the flyers, as we aren&#039;t allowed to park on our own block most of the time due to PG&amp;E, but I guess the organizers did as much as they could (Signs could have been a little bigger though,instead of those small paper diamond ones). But I will also say that $400 is way too excessive to have your car towed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well first off, after attending Sunday on the Streets, I think the event without an doubt was a success and my 9 year-old son says he hopes they do it again soon. As for the tow trucks, I think the problem on our block was that PG&amp;E has been doing work and closing off parking from 7am to 5pm every weekday for the last 2 weeks (and there is still two more to go).The signs for that are much more prominent. I think some may have seen the smaller signs for the event and just associated them with the larger PG&amp;E ones and didn&#8217;t bother reading them.<br />
I actually know the head organizer as he is an old school mate of mine and a former Mission kid himself. I said something about this on Facebook and this was his response:<br />
&#8220;full public outreach &#8211; public meetings, flyers, posters to all merchants flyers at all churches, flyers on all cars for the past week along the route, email blasts, notices in newspapers, etc! Truly a successful event!&#8221;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t say that we received the flyers, as we aren&#8217;t allowed to park on our own block most of the time due to PG&amp;E, but I guess the organizers did as much as they could (Signs could have been a little bigger though,instead of those small paper diamond ones). But I will also say that $400 is way too excessive to have your car towed.</p>
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