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		<title>By: Michaelajxa</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/17/biker-down/#comment-78486</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2013 23:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>place all 10 dishes at room temperature out of direct sunlight (seeds don&#8217;t need light to germinate and light can cause fungus to grow). * plant sweet corn and beans every two weeks through june for an extended harvest. it is new nitrogenous and calcareous fertilizer with high efficiency &amp; quickly make-up nitrogen, applied in greenhouse/farmland. in this video we discuss basic yard / turf maintenance tips.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaiujf</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/17/biker-down/#comment-66333</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you want to save yourself a trip, give them a call at (816) 373-3532. there is no excuse for people to put their heads into the sand. commodity price is lacking.commodity etfs that can protect you from inflationone of the biggest risks related to investing over the long</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/17/biker-down/#comment-7564</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What happened totally sucks!  I am a huge bike advocate and I also drive a car.  It is a fine balance in this city.  Both sides need to take responsibility and things like this may not happen as often.  In this case it was obvioulsy not your boyfriends fault.

What I really wanted you to know is that he should look into www.healthysanfrancisco.org  this is the program that will allow him to get access to health care and have a primary care doctor at a low or in some cases no monthly fee.  I work on this program and really believe that everyone without health insurance needs to check it out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened totally sucks!  I am a huge bike advocate and I also drive a car.  It is a fine balance in this city.  Both sides need to take responsibility and things like this may not happen as often.  In this case it was obvioulsy not your boyfriends fault.</p>
<p>What I really wanted you to know is that he should look into <a href="http://www.healthysanfrancisco.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.healthysanfrancisco.org</a>  this is the program that will allow him to get access to health care and have a primary care doctor at a low or in some cases no monthly fee.  I work on this program and really believe that everyone without health insurance needs to check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: bonita bohemian</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/17/biker-down/#comment-7563</link>
		<dc:creator>bonita bohemian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 23:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hi, I&#039;m a car owner and a biker. I wanted to comment that I think events like Critical Mass are part of the problem and not the solution. While I realize that Critical Mass is an awareness tool, it is also causing friction between cyclists and drivers. I have personally witnessed a car stuck in critical mass (chuckle), but then I saw many cyclists getting all us against you on the poor girl in the car - hitting her car and stuff. NOT COOL GUYS.

I believe drivers should slow down, and cyclists should be more aware. I believe cops ought to start ticketing showcase cyclists to get the, &quot;hello dumbass that car can fucking kill you in an instant&quot; message across to young and inexperienced city cyclists.

After reading this story, I am planning to make sure that I slow down when I&#039;m driving. I would also be mortified to injure a cyclist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi, I&#8217;m a car owner and a biker. I wanted to comment that I think events like Critical Mass are part of the problem and not the solution. While I realize that Critical Mass is an awareness tool, it is also causing friction between cyclists and drivers. I have personally witnessed a car stuck in critical mass (chuckle), but then I saw many cyclists getting all us against you on the poor girl in the car &#8211; hitting her car and stuff. NOT COOL GUYS.</p>
<p>I believe drivers should slow down, and cyclists should be more aware. I believe cops ought to start ticketing showcase cyclists to get the, &#8220;hello dumbass that car can fucking kill you in an instant&#8221; message across to young and inexperienced city cyclists.</p>
<p>After reading this story, I am planning to make sure that I slow down when I&#8217;m driving. I would also be mortified to injure a cyclist.</p>
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		<title>By: Today&#8217;s Mission 06.20.09 &#124; Mission Loc@l</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/17/biker-down/#comment-7562</link>
		<dc:creator>Today&#8217;s Mission 06.20.09 &#124; Mission Loc@l</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/17/biker-down/#comment-7561</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 05:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Try life as a pedestrian in the lovely Mission. Not only are the cars out to get you, but the bicyclists are as well. I&#039;m really tired of having to dash out of the way when I&#039;m in a crosswalk and a bicycle blows through the light or stop sign. I&#039;ve had a few really close calls and I&#039;m developing a really negative attitude toward the entire bicycle set as a result. It&#039;s a mode of transportation, not an act of rebellion for pity&#039;s sake. If the bicyclists are so put upon by speeding steel automobiles, why do they terrorize pedestrians with their steel and superior speed? If you are on foot, in a car or on a bike, you either obey the rules or you&#039;re an asshole.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try life as a pedestrian in the lovely Mission. Not only are the cars out to get you, but the bicyclists are as well. I&#8217;m really tired of having to dash out of the way when I&#8217;m in a crosswalk and a bicycle blows through the light or stop sign. I&#8217;ve had a few really close calls and I&#8217;m developing a really negative attitude toward the entire bicycle set as a result. It&#8217;s a mode of transportation, not an act of rebellion for pity&#8217;s sake. If the bicyclists are so put upon by speeding steel automobiles, why do they terrorize pedestrians with their steel and superior speed? If you are on foot, in a car or on a bike, you either obey the rules or you&#8217;re an asshole.</p>
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		<title>By: zinzin</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/17/biker-down/#comment-7560</link>
		<dc:creator>zinzin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thx for the kind word. as i said somewhere, i got nothing but love for cyclists...and i am in awe of the passion in the sf cycling community. it&#039;s a glimpse into a brighter, more responsible future. i would love to ride a bike, but back injury prohibits. my kid is a bike lover though.

so today, i&#039;m stopped at a red at 7th or 8th &amp; folsom. a guy is riding WEST on the north side of the street (folsom is one way going east), cruises through the red, and makes a very hard &amp; fast left, so now heading south, in the pedestrian crosswalk as my light turns green. he bumps a woman hurrying to get across with his elbow, knocking her shit out of her hand. then the car in the right lane (next to the bike lane) gives him a HARD and unfriendly honk, because he&#039;s fucking up everyone&#039;s shit and didn&#039;t stop to help the woman pick up her bag...and he flips the &quot;god&#039;s bicycle&quot; bird at the car, and spits at him, and proceeds south.

so anyway, my point is, regardless of moral ground, regardless of &quot;feel it gives them a license to be a dickhead&quot;...why do cyclists take risks of personal physical harm so flippantly?

look at rachel&#039;s bf...who was apparently riding carefully &amp; well. hurt bad. this guy could have been EASILY mowed down by the guy in the right lane at the light, much less riding the wrong way down folsom, which is essentially a freeway.

i would be mortified to hurt a cyclist....but i see so many taking silly risks, much less behaving badly. doesnt make sense in a crowded city.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thx for the kind word. as i said somewhere, i got nothing but love for cyclists&#8230;and i am in awe of the passion in the sf cycling community. it&#8217;s a glimpse into a brighter, more responsible future. i would love to ride a bike, but back injury prohibits. my kid is a bike lover though.</p>
<p>so today, i&#8217;m stopped at a red at 7th or 8th &amp; folsom. a guy is riding WEST on the north side of the street (folsom is one way going east), cruises through the red, and makes a very hard &amp; fast left, so now heading south, in the pedestrian crosswalk as my light turns green. he bumps a woman hurrying to get across with his elbow, knocking her shit out of her hand. then the car in the right lane (next to the bike lane) gives him a HARD and unfriendly honk, because he&#8217;s fucking up everyone&#8217;s shit and didn&#8217;t stop to help the woman pick up her bag&#8230;and he flips the &#8220;god&#8217;s bicycle&#8221; bird at the car, and spits at him, and proceeds south.</p>
<p>so anyway, my point is, regardless of moral ground, regardless of &#8220;feel it gives them a license to be a dickhead&#8221;&#8230;why do cyclists take risks of personal physical harm so flippantly?</p>
<p>look at rachel&#8217;s bf&#8230;who was apparently riding carefully &amp; well. hurt bad. this guy could have been EASILY mowed down by the guy in the right lane at the light, much less riding the wrong way down folsom, which is essentially a freeway.</p>
<p>i would be mortified to hurt a cyclist&#8230;.but i see so many taking silly risks, much less behaving badly. doesnt make sense in a crowded city.</p>
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		<title>By: kit</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/17/biker-down/#comment-7559</link>
		<dc:creator>kit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[rach,

much love from a fellow sf cyclist.

i think this situation is really one of the most dangerous because depending on the level of noise it&#039;s sometimes impossible for you to even tell if a vehicle is just parked or whether it&#039;s running and about to pull in front of you.

hope your boyfriend is back on two wheels soon and that the driver will take this as a lesson to drive more safely and conscientiously in the future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rach,</p>
<p>much love from a fellow sf cyclist.</p>
<p>i think this situation is really one of the most dangerous because depending on the level of noise it&#8217;s sometimes impossible for you to even tell if a vehicle is just parked or whether it&#8217;s running and about to pull in front of you.</p>
<p>hope your boyfriend is back on two wheels soon and that the driver will take this as a lesson to drive more safely and conscientiously in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: kit</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/17/biker-down/#comment-7558</link>
		<dc:creator>kit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[zinzin:

i greatly appreciate how well you were able to handle the asshole cyclist without making a generalization. :) you are absolutely right, some people seem to ride bicycles *because* they feel it gives them a license to be a dickhead. but there are also those of us who are just trying to make the world and our bodies a better place.

thanks for driving safely out there. if i see you on the road, i&#039;ll give you a wave and a smile. ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zinzin:</p>
<p>i greatly appreciate how well you were able to handle the asshole cyclist without making a generalization. <img src='http://www.missionmission.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  you are absolutely right, some people seem to ride bicycles *because* they feel it gives them a license to be a dickhead. but there are also those of us who are just trying to make the world and our bodies a better place.</p>
<p>thanks for driving safely out there. if i see you on the road, i&#8217;ll give you a wave and a smile. <img src='http://www.missionmission.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: kit</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/17/biker-down/#comment-7557</link>
		<dc:creator>kit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, in fact, it does not happen a bunch of times every day. I&#039;ve ridden several miles daily for the past two years and have yet to have any serious accidents.

The danger of bicycling is grossly exaggerated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, in fact, it does not happen a bunch of times every day. I&#8217;ve ridden several miles daily for the past two years and have yet to have any serious accidents.</p>
<p>The danger of bicycling is grossly exaggerated.</p>
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		<title>By: Streetsblog San Francisco &#187; Motorist Hits Cyclist in Valencia Street Bike Lane</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/17/biker-down/#comment-7556</link>
		<dc:creator>Streetsblog San Francisco &#187; Motorist Hits Cyclist in Valencia Street Bike Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: asen</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/17/biker-down/#comment-7555</link>
		<dc:creator>asen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am really really sorry to hear. The same thing happened to myself and my boyfriend. Riding single file down Fulton at Webster (not going fast, I am a slow biker), a car turned thru the intersection and cut in between us. Spent many hours/days at SFGH with no health insurance, he now has several plates. I wish your boyfriend a speedy and healthy recovery.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am really really sorry to hear. The same thing happened to myself and my boyfriend. Riding single file down Fulton at Webster (not going fast, I am a slow biker), a car turned thru the intersection and cut in between us. Spent many hours/days at SFGH with no health insurance, he now has several plates. I wish your boyfriend a speedy and healthy recovery.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed on your last point, zinzin - I&#039;m a kind of annoyingly slow cyclist sometimes, because regardless of whether I&#039;m &quot;right&quot; or whatever, I am 200 combined pounds and they have a whole lot of metal and momentum on their side. I don&#039;t want to fuck with that. I&#039;ll take a few extra seconds to get somewhere if it means I&#039;m not going to get my face smashed.

I saw someone pass me on Market yesterday at whatever that really scary intersection is before you get to Valencia. Cars whipping around the corner, I was stopped all the way back (good lord, that light takes forever), and the kid just whizzes past me on the right into direct traffic. Cars had to stop and he whipped around one of them that almost didn&#039;t stop in time. I was really afraid he was going to get laid out. His confidence in just speeding dead into the light makes me feel like this isn&#039;t the first time he&#039;s tried that little maneuver.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed on your last point, zinzin &#8211; I&#8217;m a kind of annoyingly slow cyclist sometimes, because regardless of whether I&#8217;m &#8220;right&#8221; or whatever, I am 200 combined pounds and they have a whole lot of metal and momentum on their side. I don&#8217;t want to fuck with that. I&#8217;ll take a few extra seconds to get somewhere if it means I&#8217;m not going to get my face smashed.</p>
<p>I saw someone pass me on Market yesterday at whatever that really scary intersection is before you get to Valencia. Cars whipping around the corner, I was stopped all the way back (good lord, that light takes forever), and the kid just whizzes past me on the right into direct traffic. Cars had to stop and he whipped around one of them that almost didn&#8217;t stop in time. I was really afraid he was going to get laid out. His confidence in just speeding dead into the light makes me feel like this isn&#8217;t the first time he&#8217;s tried that little maneuver.</p>
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		<title>By: luke</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not certain why a car should have to wait in the scenario zinzin describes.  Part of the problem is that bikers are a minority group compared to cars and like all minority situations, it&#039;s much easier for bad behavior to represent the entire community in the eyes of others.

There are plenty of bikers that sit inside and in front of the crosswalk that annoy the hell out of me when I bike.  They&#039;ll get in front of you and often are slow to accelerate and wobble (unable to bike straight).  You pass them and if you end up with bad light timing, you have deal with their slow ass again.  Why do some bikers need to block crosswalks or traffic?  Do I go through stop signs when there is no traffic?  Absolutely.  Do I wait when there is?  Absolutely.  The most annoying thing for me is to be waiting at a stop sign to have the only car I am waiting on to sit there really long just to turn a direction not in my way (without a signal).

Clearly things would work better if everyone was more considerate and that includes not blocking cars that have a green light.

As for this incident it sounds like it was the parking safety issues that plague the Valencia corridor.  I was almost doored from the left by a car in traffic this week.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not certain why a car should have to wait in the scenario zinzin describes.  Part of the problem is that bikers are a minority group compared to cars and like all minority situations, it&#8217;s much easier for bad behavior to represent the entire community in the eyes of others.</p>
<p>There are plenty of bikers that sit inside and in front of the crosswalk that annoy the hell out of me when I bike.  They&#8217;ll get in front of you and often are slow to accelerate and wobble (unable to bike straight).  You pass them and if you end up with bad light timing, you have deal with their slow ass again.  Why do some bikers need to block crosswalks or traffic?  Do I go through stop signs when there is no traffic?  Absolutely.  Do I wait when there is?  Absolutely.  The most annoying thing for me is to be waiting at a stop sign to have the only car I am waiting on to sit there really long just to turn a direction not in my way (without a signal).</p>
<p>Clearly things would work better if everyone was more considerate and that includes not blocking cars that have a green light.</p>
<p>As for this incident it sounds like it was the parking safety issues that plague the Valencia corridor.  I was almost doored from the left by a car in traffic this week.</p>
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		<title>By: zinzin</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/17/biker-down/#comment-7552</link>
		<dc:creator>zinzin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[again, sorry to hear, and thanks for sharing.

glad he came out (more or less) OK.

scary. this driver was clearly an idiot. did they even know or stop?

best for a speedy recovery.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>again, sorry to hear, and thanks for sharing.</p>
<p>glad he came out (more or less) OK.</p>
<p>scary. this driver was clearly an idiot. did they even know or stop?</p>
<p>best for a speedy recovery.</p>
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