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	<title>Comments on: Update: Biker Down</title>
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		<title>By: clayton</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/18/update-biker-down/#comment-7598</link>
		<dc:creator>clayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 01:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was just over a year ago.  I&#039;ve heard about some cuts to the program.  Hopefully the retro thing wasn&#039;t lost with budget cuts.  Best of luck.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was just over a year ago.  I&#8217;ve heard about some cuts to the program.  Hopefully the retro thing wasn&#8217;t lost with budget cuts.  Best of luck.</p>
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		<title>By: JWL</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/18/update-biker-down/#comment-7597</link>
		<dc:creator>JWL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 00:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clayton, can you tell me when this was? I was just in a similar incident sent to SFGH mid-June after being hit by a car, was referred to Healthy SF who enrolled me but said they won&#039;t apply retroactive. Just getting mixed signals.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clayton, can you tell me when this was? I was just in a similar incident sent to SFGH mid-June after being hit by a car, was referred to Healthy SF who enrolled me but said they won&#8217;t apply retroactive. Just getting mixed signals.</p>
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		<title>By: clayton</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/18/update-biker-down/#comment-7596</link>
		<dc:creator>clayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was able to sign up for Healthy SF a few weeks after visiting SF General, and they applied it retroactively, reducing my bill from $3000 to $30.  Skip the lawyer and let Gav pick up the tab.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was able to sign up for Healthy SF a few weeks after visiting SF General, and they applied it retroactively, reducing my bill from $3000 to $30.  Skip the lawyer and let Gav pick up the tab.</p>
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		<title>By: Stucco-sux</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/18/update-biker-down/#comment-7595</link>
		<dc:creator>Stucco-sux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 01:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Team awesome, I hate your attitude but I love your user name.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Team awesome, I hate your attitude but I love your user name.</p>
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		<title>By: teamawesome</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/18/update-biker-down/#comment-7594</link>
		<dc:creator>teamawesome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[COMMENT FIGHT!

Both sides of this argument are stupid.  Tell your boo to get a lawyer, keep all his receipts, take pictures of his face and make sure that a police report was filed.  I heard that a man named David Anderson is a good one for bike accidents.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>COMMENT FIGHT!</p>
<p>Both sides of this argument are stupid.  Tell your boo to get a lawyer, keep all his receipts, take pictures of his face and make sure that a police report was filed.  I heard that a man named David Anderson is a good one for bike accidents.</p>
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		<title>By: jamesy</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/18/update-biker-down/#comment-7593</link>
		<dc:creator>jamesy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[24th and bryant is where i live,

drunk/blazed and DIRTY?  i don&#039;t get it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>24th and bryant is where i live,</p>
<p>drunk/blazed and DIRTY?  i don&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: e</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/18/update-biker-down/#comment-7592</link>
		<dc:creator>e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If your mirrors don&#039;t allow you to see well enough to proceed safely, you can&#039;t use that as an excuse to pull out of a spot into a lighted cyclist!

Roll down your window, stick your head out, and look back - or do what ever you need to do - but don&#039;t just drive if you can&#039;t see what you&#039;re driving into!

The same applies to the &quot;I couldn&#039;t see them because of the sun&quot; excuse. If you can&#039;t see, you can&#039;t proceed safely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your mirrors don&#8217;t allow you to see well enough to proceed safely, you can&#8217;t use that as an excuse to pull out of a spot into a lighted cyclist!</p>
<p>Roll down your window, stick your head out, and look back &#8211; or do what ever you need to do &#8211; but don&#8217;t just drive if you can&#8217;t see what you&#8217;re driving into!</p>
<p>The same applies to the &#8220;I couldn&#8217;t see them because of the sun&#8221; excuse. If you can&#8217;t see, you can&#8217;t proceed safely.</p>
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		<title>By: olu</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/18/update-biker-down/#comment-7591</link>
		<dc:creator>olu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah but one time, a car driver was treated poorly by a cyclist, therefore through the magic of false equivalences cyclists are just as bad as drivers!

(we do realize that this will never be resolved right?)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah but one time, a car driver was treated poorly by a cyclist, therefore through the magic of false equivalences cyclists are just as bad as drivers!</p>
<p>(we do realize that this will never be resolved right?)</p>
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		<title>By: Stucco-sux</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/18/update-biker-down/#comment-7590</link>
		<dc:creator>Stucco-sux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, as the &#039;hater&#039; (actually I love my bike) who started this please note that I am saying we have too many douches in this town, on four wheels and two, and that physics is not on the bike rider&#039;s side.  And since douche bike riders can go all sorts of places that cars can&#039;t, the bike douche factor can nail pedestrians (i&#039;ve seen it) and pets (I&#039;ve seen it) and innocent drivers who are obeying the law and driving carefully (i&#039;ve seen it) and other bikers like me (i&#039;ve lived it).  So to close:  until there is some sort of accountability in this town for douches on bikes, don&#039;t expect the &#039;hating&#039; to stop.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as the &#8216;hater&#8217; (actually I love my bike) who started this please note that I am saying we have too many douches in this town, on four wheels and two, and that physics is not on the bike rider&#8217;s side.  And since douche bike riders can go all sorts of places that cars can&#8217;t, the bike douche factor can nail pedestrians (i&#8217;ve seen it) and pets (I&#8217;ve seen it) and innocent drivers who are obeying the law and driving carefully (i&#8217;ve seen it) and other bikers like me (i&#8217;ve lived it).  So to close:  until there is some sort of accountability in this town for douches on bikes, don&#8217;t expect the &#8216;hating&#8217; to stop.</p>
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		<title>By: moderniste</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/18/update-biker-down/#comment-7589</link>
		<dc:creator>moderniste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As far as not having healthcare, has your boyfriend applied for Healthy San Francisco?  (I know it&#039;s a bit after the fact.)  It&#039;s healthcare coverage for those of us who are too &quot;rich&quot; for MediCal but can&#039;t afford or get accepted by traditional insurance.  I have it, and it&#039;s certainly not dee-luxe, but it&#039;s saved my ass.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as not having healthcare, has your boyfriend applied for Healthy San Francisco?  (I know it&#8217;s a bit after the fact.)  It&#8217;s healthcare coverage for those of us who are too &#8220;rich&#8221; for MediCal but can&#8217;t afford or get accepted by traditional insurance.  I have it, and it&#8217;s certainly not dee-luxe, but it&#8217;s saved my ass.</p>
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		<title>By: SFDoggy</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/18/update-biker-down/#comment-7588</link>
		<dc:creator>SFDoggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 05:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@PN: I would have to disagree with you on this.  As a driver I find it much easier to see cyclists when they have proper lights and reflectors.  It is true that bike lights are not as bright as car headlights, but a properly lit bike is much more visible than some dude wearing black riding a fixie.  So, cyclists should certainly use extra caution at night, but lights are helpful.
BTW, I suspect the cyclist was in the right here.  People can be amazingly clueless when pulling out of parking spots; twice yesterday people pulled out of front of me in their cars wtihout signalling from parking spots.  I had to slam on my brakes to avoid a collision.  A cyclist in a bike lane might not have been able to avoid a collision.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@PN: I would have to disagree with you on this.  As a driver I find it much easier to see cyclists when they have proper lights and reflectors.  It is true that bike lights are not as bright as car headlights, but a properly lit bike is much more visible than some dude wearing black riding a fixie.  So, cyclists should certainly use extra caution at night, but lights are helpful.<br />
BTW, I suspect the cyclist was in the right here.  People can be amazingly clueless when pulling out of parking spots; twice yesterday people pulled out of front of me in their cars wtihout signalling from parking spots.  I had to slam on my brakes to avoid a collision.  A cyclist in a bike lane might not have been able to avoid a collision.</p>
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		<title>By: Ariel.</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/18/update-biker-down/#comment-7587</link>
		<dc:creator>Ariel.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dude, seriously, what is going on? I just got off the 22 and a guy on a bike stopped at 16th and Potrero to yell into the door that the bus just clipped him, and  spat in the bus at the operator, who sheepishly apologized. A guy in the front yelled at the bicyclist about &quot;learning to ride a bike&quot; all the way to the next stop where ANOTHER guy on a bike rode up to the door yelling that the bus either clipped him or almost did and the guy in the front just kept yelling, &quot;You too, you learn to ride a bike too!&quot; This time the bus driver also engaged in yelling, and a woman in front exclaimed &quot;I just have no respect for bike riders.&quot;

This seems like a bad situation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, seriously, what is going on? I just got off the 22 and a guy on a bike stopped at 16th and Potrero to yell into the door that the bus just clipped him, and  spat in the bus at the operator, who sheepishly apologized. A guy in the front yelled at the bicyclist about &#8220;learning to ride a bike&#8221; all the way to the next stop where ANOTHER guy on a bike rode up to the door yelling that the bus either clipped him or almost did and the guy in the front just kept yelling, &#8220;You too, you learn to ride a bike too!&#8221; This time the bus driver also engaged in yelling, and a woman in front exclaimed &#8220;I just have no respect for bike riders.&#8221;</p>
<p>This seems like a bad situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/18/update-biker-down/#comment-7586</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Damn. Rachel, I hope your boyfriend is okay. Not having health insurance is a bitch - I know it would be a ridiculous amount of trouble, but I agree with jimbeam above. Get a good lawyer. It sounds like you weren&#039;t doing anything wrong (it&#039;s a little harder to blame fixies and dick cyclists and red light running when the accident is in the middle of the block), so it sucks that he&#039;ll have to pay the incredible medical bills for it.

I ended up in the emergency room after a bike accident (completely my fault, chain fell off when I was in high gear and my feet flew off the pedals; I went over the handlebars like an idiot) and the bills were astronomical. Luckily I had health insurance, but I saw what the bills would have been - $1089 for the ambulance ride alone, not to mention time in the hospital, x-rays, doctors, etc. Best of luck for a speedy recovery.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn. Rachel, I hope your boyfriend is okay. Not having health insurance is a bitch &#8211; I know it would be a ridiculous amount of trouble, but I agree with jimbeam above. Get a good lawyer. It sounds like you weren&#8217;t doing anything wrong (it&#8217;s a little harder to blame fixies and dick cyclists and red light running when the accident is in the middle of the block), so it sucks that he&#8217;ll have to pay the incredible medical bills for it.</p>
<p>I ended up in the emergency room after a bike accident (completely my fault, chain fell off when I was in high gear and my feet flew off the pedals; I went over the handlebars like an idiot) and the bills were astronomical. Luckily I had health insurance, but I saw what the bills would have been &#8211; $1089 for the ambulance ride alone, not to mention time in the hospital, x-rays, doctors, etc. Best of luck for a speedy recovery.</p>
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		<title>By: pn</title>
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		<dc:creator>pn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[as a biker and a driver on valencia i have to comment on the use of bike headlights.  in the rear or sideview mirror of a parked car, they&#039;re virtually useless.  the ambient glare of other cars headlights, street lights, and storefronts drowns out a bike light.  it is very difficult to see bicycles in mirrors at night, so please be extra careful when riding at night.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as a biker and a driver on valencia i have to comment on the use of bike headlights.  in the rear or sideview mirror of a parked car, they&#8217;re virtually useless.  the ambient glare of other cars headlights, street lights, and storefronts drowns out a bike light.  it is very difficult to see bicycles in mirrors at night, so please be extra careful when riding at night.</p>
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		<title>By: Bjorn Teuleuse</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2009/06/18/update-biker-down/#comment-7583</link>
		<dc:creator>Bjorn Teuleuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So many assholes are quick to hate just because of a few unsafe cyclists.  Get the right information and watch your words before you assume anything and then you won&#039;t look like a bundle of dumbshits...  Hoping for a speedy recovery to the cyclist (and any injured cyclists whether they are at fault or not)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many assholes are quick to hate just because of a few unsafe cyclists.  Get the right information and watch your words before you assume anything and then you won&#8217;t look like a bundle of dumbshits&#8230;  Hoping for a speedy recovery to the cyclist (and any injured cyclists whether they are at fault or not)</p>
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