Comments on: Body Count Rises While Police Resources Continue to be Devoted to Dolores Park http://www.missionmission.org/2009/09/20/body-count-rises-while-resources-continue-to-be-devoted-to-dolores-park/ Saluting San Francisco's Mission District Tue, 28 Apr 2026 15:29:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.6.1 By: guero http://www.missionmission.org/2009/09/20/body-count-rises-while-resources-continue-to-be-devoted-to-dolores-park/#comment-11315 guero Wed, 23 Sep 2009 06:07:48 +0000 http://missionmission.wordpress.com/?p=7254#comment-11315 @NEO – yeah. Maybe I do sound like zinzin but that’s ok because I did agree with just about everything he said. And though I stand by the cops not being responsible for these incidents, I agree with you that SFPD needs serious fixing (hopefully Gascon will do the job) and I agree with you 100% about Kamila Harris, Gavin Newson and Campos – but also add the rest of the activist Supervisors to the list.

As for the cops, they know who the players are but the often can’t do anything about it. Like a family friend’s husband who was shot while trying to break up a fight some years ago – the cops knew that some 15 year old from the 26th St projects pulled the trigger but no one was willing to testify. This kid walked around with everyone knowing what he did and just laughed cause they couldn’t touch him. And the only reason the Mission was quiet for as long as it has been, was because the Feds got involved and took action while Campos was up in arms about the whole thing.

@Paddy – I’m still not clear if all the victims were really criminals. I think we need to learn more. I know a lot people who knew one of the victims and I have my doubts as to how much he was involved.

]]> By: Ariel Dovas http://www.missionmission.org/2009/09/20/body-count-rises-while-resources-continue-to-be-devoted-to-dolores-park/#comment-11314 Ariel Dovas Wed, 23 Sep 2009 01:15:31 +0000 http://missionmission.wordpress.com/?p=7254#comment-11314 I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that death is not a good thing. But that’s really just addressing the second issue I have with your comment.

]]> By: PaddyW http://www.missionmission.org/2009/09/20/body-count-rises-while-resources-continue-to-be-devoted-to-dolores-park/#comment-11313 PaddyW Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:50:42 +0000 http://missionmission.wordpress.com/?p=7254#comment-11313 It’s criminals shooting criminals. Tell me again how that’s a bad thing?

]]> By: radaniels http://www.missionmission.org/2009/09/20/body-count-rises-while-resources-continue-to-be-devoted-to-dolores-park/#comment-11312 radaniels Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:55:43 +0000 http://missionmission.wordpress.com/?p=7254#comment-11312 http://pastur.blogspot.com/2009/09/24th-street-3-homicides-3-days.html

the tension on 24th continues.

]]> By: Neo Displacer http://www.missionmission.org/2009/09/20/body-count-rises-while-resources-continue-to-be-devoted-to-dolores-park/#comment-11311 Neo Displacer Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:06:52 +0000 http://missionmission.wordpress.com/?p=7254#comment-11311 guero taking over where zin zin left off defending the cops… Look the cops are lame the gangs are dangerous. No one who has spent time observing the cops could defend them. Cops are not doing their job. And there is more blame to go around, Tacchini, useless, Kamala Harris, useless, Gavin Newsom, useless, Campos, fucking A+ useless.

Oh and while my ardor is up where the fuck is the hope and change Barack? Continued illegal spying, check, continued renditions, check, questionable signing statements, check, pass to torturers, check, escalation in Afghanistan, check, give away to wall street, check, screw middle class homeowners, check, give away to health insurers, check. Oh wait a positive net neutrality stance and a decidedly centrist supreme court justice, whoo hoo, I’m feeling Pepsi.

]]> By: Adam Gutterman http://www.missionmission.org/2009/09/20/body-count-rises-while-resources-continue-to-be-devoted-to-dolores-park/#comment-11310 Adam Gutterman Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:33:25 +0000 http://missionmission.wordpress.com/?p=7254#comment-11310 This shooting could not have been prevented by more foot/auto patrols in the Mission. 2 rival gangs will shoot each other as long as a cop isn’t within eyesight. By the logic of the writer of the post, the cops should just stake out every corner in the Mission all day/night to make sure nothing happens. Meanwhile, an armed robbery in the Noe Valley escalates into violence and an auto-pedestrian in the Castro turns deadly because they get slow responses.

Guero above said it best: “Why are there so many in this community so devoted to protecting public drinking in the park and not organizing against the gangs, taggers and other petty criminals?”

]]> By: chucky http://www.missionmission.org/2009/09/20/body-count-rises-while-resources-continue-to-be-devoted-to-dolores-park/#comment-11309 chucky Mon, 21 Sep 2009 05:29:57 +0000 http://missionmission.wordpress.com/?p=7254#comment-11309 Uh, stupidity?

]]> By: Frederick http://www.missionmission.org/2009/09/20/body-count-rises-while-resources-continue-to-be-devoted-to-dolores-park/#comment-11308 Frederick Mon, 21 Sep 2009 03:07:39 +0000 http://missionmission.wordpress.com/?p=7254#comment-11308 Actually, from this report it looks like the fact that cops were already so close was the reason they’ve already apprehended the suspects.

http://missionlocal.org/2009/09/shooting-at-24th-and-potrero/

]]> By: guero http://www.missionmission.org/2009/09/20/body-count-rises-while-resources-continue-to-be-devoted-to-dolores-park/#comment-11307 guero Mon, 21 Sep 2009 03:03:18 +0000 http://missionmission.wordpress.com/?p=7254#comment-11307 legalize public intoxication? are you for real?

]]> By: Eric http://www.missionmission.org/2009/09/20/body-count-rises-while-resources-continue-to-be-devoted-to-dolores-park/#comment-11306 Eric Mon, 21 Sep 2009 02:36:01 +0000 http://missionmission.wordpress.com/?p=7254#comment-11306 Maybe if people would just mellow out in our community and learn to get along, there would be less violence.

Besides, calling the cops every time some kids are drinking in the park really does waste an incredible amount of resources in our local police station. IMO we should just make public intoxication legal and deal with the real problems.

]]> By: Daniel http://www.missionmission.org/2009/09/20/body-count-rises-while-resources-continue-to-be-devoted-to-dolores-park/#comment-11305 Daniel Mon, 21 Sep 2009 02:13:49 +0000 http://missionmission.wordpress.com/?p=7254#comment-11305 Do we know the motives behind either of these recent 24th st shootings?

]]> By: Kevin Montgomery http://www.missionmission.org/2009/09/20/body-count-rises-while-resources-continue-to-be-devoted-to-dolores-park/#comment-11304 Kevin Montgomery Mon, 21 Sep 2009 01:57:52 +0000 http://missionmission.wordpress.com/?p=7254#comment-11304 I’m not blaming the cops. The cops follow their orders from the top, who are pressured by politicians who are pressured by constituents. It’s sad that police are having their time wasted by being ordered to increase patrols of a relatively peaceful place.

Clearly keeping police resources on the streets will never stop crime, but it’s a start.

]]> By: guero http://www.missionmission.org/2009/09/20/body-count-rises-while-resources-continue-to-be-devoted-to-dolores-park/#comment-11303 guero Mon, 21 Sep 2009 01:51:23 +0000 http://missionmission.wordpress.com/?p=7254#comment-11303 It’s kind of lame to equate the drinking at Dolores Park to what is probably gang or drug related activities. Let’s stop blaming the cops already. Should be the other way around: why are there so many in this community so devoted to protecting public drinking in the park and not organizing against the gangs, taggers and other petty criminals?

]]> By: EK http://www.missionmission.org/2009/09/20/body-count-rises-while-resources-continue-to-be-devoted-to-dolores-park/#comment-11302 EK Mon, 21 Sep 2009 01:20:30 +0000 http://missionmission.wordpress.com/?p=7254#comment-11302 This is insane. The police even had a mobile unit set up at 24th and Folsom all today. Apparently it’s not much of a deterrent.

]]> By: Batman http://www.missionmission.org/2009/09/20/body-count-rises-while-resources-continue-to-be-devoted-to-dolores-park/#comment-11301 Batman Mon, 21 Sep 2009 01:06:32 +0000 http://missionmission.wordpress.com/?p=7254#comment-11301 It’s SFPD, not Batman.

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