Seriously, ride the subway in Tokyo or London. You can hardly move. SF needs to relax the F up and let bikers help save the planet. BART has plenty or room for bikes. But a dedicated bike car makes perfect sense.

Confining bicyclists to one car is a saftey risk? Really? Isnt a maxed out train holding 2000 people a risk anyways? Look at teh stairs in every bart station dwtn during rush hour….specially embarcadero….its a 3 minute wait to get up the stairs.

Please understand that I know you were quoting someone else, squashimi. Im not trying to call you out! carry on!

“Regarding a unique car for bikes: Demand for travel on BART during commute periods is extremely high, and all available cars in BART’s fleet are responding to the maximum extent to accommodate this demand. At these times, all seating is quickly occupied with a significant number of passengers standing as well. The ‘no bike’ times have been based on the times passenger loads for the trains are high.

You specifically suggest the dedication of a car for bicycles or using the last car for bikes. This idea has been evaluated by BART staff in the past, and unfortunately, due to operational reasons, dedication of a special car for bikes would be basically impossible. During the peak periods, BART already runs 9-10 car trains when we have enough cars. Our platforms can only accommodate ten car trains, so it’s not possible to add cars to those trains. Also, the position of the cars changes during the day as the train is enlarged or shrunk. In addition, because trains reverse direction once they reach the end of each run, there is no way to guarantee that the last, first, or even middle car of each train would be a bike car.

Confining all bicycles to a single car would create a safety risk as it concentrates too many cyclists into a small area. Actually, permitting them in all but the lead car helps disperse what would be an otherwise crowded condition.

Being rapid “mass public transit”, BART’s purpose is to transport the maximum passengers desiring to board, yet a standard bicycle will take up space that can easily accommodate at least three more adults. As an accommodation BART allows folded bikes at all times.”

here’s what I say: weak!
and while I’m at it I’ll just say that if there was a bike lane on the Bay Bridge, I’d be outta your way, and gladly.

That said, I would be all for having one car devoted to bikes for rush hour, with no seats. Just makes sense.

So take the opportunity to bike the extra 16 or so blocks and get some good exercise and then hop on the BART.

But then I see tons o’ bikes going various directions at various stations and I feel silly for following the rules. I guess it bugs me that they are not universally applied. I’m happy to break rules in general (as I often do on my bike commute, hello “stop signs”) but the sometimes-enforcement is frustrating. Now I feel like a whiny old fogey…