Comments on: So Why Is AC Transit So Awesome?

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By: colleenmorgan

colleenmorgan — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:49:24 +0000

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/abraham/detail??blogid=95&entry_id=57379

Okay, so it was an N at Harrison and Webster.

By: colleenmorgan

colleenmorgan — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:47:28 +0000

Haha, I was just about to post this. I couldn’t tell for sure, but that’s an 805 or an NL near Lake Merritt.

By: Jason

Jason — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:56:46 +0000

Maybe you do have to worry about crazies on AC transit now…

By: bbrahma

bbrahma — Sun, 14 Feb 2010 00:23:04 +0000

Sure, but two dollars on MUNI gets you as many rides as you want for probably-more-than two hours. Two dollars on AC Transit gets you one ride. If you want to transfer to a different bus, it’s an extra quarter and read by computer — so if you’re trying to get on that second bus ninety-one minutes after you bought the transfer, you’re paying another two dollars. Also, if you’re catching an AC Transit bus near a BART station then sure, you probably won’t wait more than ten minutes; anywhere else, you’ll be there a while.

By: one

one — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:04:22 +0000

If you’re unable to navigate NextBus, maybe you ought to take the short one.

By: Money Jungle

Money Jungle — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:44:52 +0000

What in the hell? The author has clearly never tried to ride the 1 through Oakland outside of downtown.

By: david vartanoff

david vartanoff — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:07:52 +0000

AC Tranist WISHES it was as wonderful as you describe. As a regular rider over the 39 years I have lived in Oakland I see a very different reality.
As to fares, younger riders regularly present expired transfers (triple beep) and are waved by.
Late, bunched buses? AC’s own report on the 51 College Ave line shows Level of Service (on time reliability) at best D, some E’s and many F’s by segment. It is better on some lightly used lines on low traffic streets much as the neighborhood routes recently axed by Muni were. Bottom line, the major AC lines are only better than Muni to the extent that AC has very few absenteeism driven missed buses.
The interior in your picture was one of the reviled Belgian buses with inadequate hand holds, very narrow aisles at the front, and seats perched on platforms making a mockery of the “low floor” for most riders.
As to drivers, the rotten apple % seems lower–I am a frequent Muni rider so I get a good sample of both.

Both systems are in deep funding crises, exacerbated both by the State embezzling voter mandated (Prop 42) monies, and the ever rising costs of fuel and worst of all labor–both hourly and “surprise” health plans.

By: hep

hep — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:36:09 +0000

did you even read their source stats? seriously. this is the problem with the internet today, people blindly c&ping shit from wikipedia without even checking to see how they arrived at those numbers. they printed the raw census “guesses” in that article. the way the census words things is, first do you own, then do you have access, ie can you borrow. many households of course “have access” but do not have daily access or permanent access to a vehicle. then you have the 7% who put down no access at all, but of course, you do have almost 50% of oakland with 2+ cars as well. then you have to remember mean household size compared to the number of cars. growing up as a poor latino, we had a truck sure, but my stepdad left at 4am for work. so for the rest of our 7person family, we essentially had no car. if you break the numebrs down by race & household size again however, a disproportionate number of people of color fall under “no cars access at all” compared with caucasians.

2003 data quickread, you need to find the more in-depth breakdowns to really start to see real numbers: http://www.census.gov/acs/www/Products/Profiles/Single/2003/ACS/Narrative/385/NP38500US73625775.htm

By: Streetsblog San Francisco » Today’s Headlines

Streetsblog San Francisco » Today’s Headlines — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:57:18 +0000

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Link Dump :: The [X]press Blog — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:26:16 +0000

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By: joe

joe — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:39:02 +0000

According to this article, 29% of San Francisco households do not own a car, while 20% of Oakland households don’t. I would imagine that the higher car ownership is attributable to the Oakland Hills and other outlying regions, and that in the urban areas of Oakland, the car ownership percentages are very similar to those of San Francisco.

http://www.humantransit.org/2010/01/three-kinds-of-lowcar-city.html

By: joe

joe — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:34:06 +0000

They still do. A mandatory $60 fee per semester is assessed for all students. But still, at $120 for one full year of AC Transit services (the Spring pass includes summer), it’s an incredible bargain compared to the roughly $132 unsubsidized monthly rate.