Comments on: The New Valencia Is Shaping Up Quite Nicely

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Now It’s Official « Mission Mission — Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:25:35 +0000

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By: FLoyd Law

FLoyd Law — Sat, 03 Jul 2010 18:09:57 +0000

That’s a really bad idea.

By: johnny0

johnny0 — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 04:00:55 +0000

Errr, Valencia St Park was my idea. But the new tower would be only slightly shorter, but considerably wider, would have no street facing access on CC, and the ass-end of the hospital would back up against the houses on Guerrero which pretty much sucks. More doctors offices is what would be much more useful for the neighborhood. Pretty fucking ridiculous that so many in the southern part of the city have to drive to CMPC on California. That being said, the tail end of Valencia would make a rather lovely park IMHO.

By: Blanche Du Blah

Blanche Du Blah — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 04:00:43 +0000

Saaariously, what is up with the Valencia St. wall walkers? I mean dang, don’t any of you guys do solo things? Your mobs depress.

By: Dan

Dan — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 03:17:07 +0000

Tack: St. Luke’s does not plan to expand to the other side of Valencia. They want to replace the current hospital with a smaller (but seismically safe) one, closer to Guerrero. The proposal to turn Valencia into a park was not from St. Luke’s, but rather, something someone suggested on a blog, maybe this one.

By: monkeeknifefight

monkeeknifefight — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 01:17:53 +0000

Anyone else remember when Valencia was four lanes?

By: tack

tack — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 00:51:06 +0000

The hospital down on the end of Valencia wants/wanted at some point to expand across the street. Part of that would be closing the end of Valencia to motor vehicles and turning it into a park so patients going across the street, newly cured, wouldn’t be ironically snuffed out by DETH TRUK.

I assume this is part of why the 26 bus was axed. Anyway, if it happens it means that people going down there from market won’t be using Valencia as a thoroughfare. That should make it more ped/bike/stilt/pogo/skate/horse/american gladiator ball friendly.

By: tack

tack — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 00:45:45 +0000

I’m also glad that Luna Park scaled back their sidewalk patio on the new sidewalk. No way a wheelchair could have gotten between it and that big tree. And it forced people to single file past an empty patio. Much better now and they still get a patio.

17th – 19th is kindof a dead zone. I think 19th – 23rd could benefit from the new sidewalks more… but hey… there’s always next recession.

By: olu

olu — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 23:08:45 +0000

friscolex is absolutely correct, with zoning you can limit when trucks can enter. the island of manhattan is such a zone – trucks are only allowed at certain times.

but i’m not advocating they do this.

question for anyone who knows: why can restaurants commandeer the sidewalk for their private uses, effectively increasing their sq ftge w/ paying more?

By: Cranky Old Mission Guy

Cranky Old Mission Guy — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 22:30:08 +0000

So when do we get the promised custom bike racks at the wide places?

And when does someone from the mayor’s office admit that this could have (and probably should have) been done on Mission first?

By: friscolex

friscolex — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 21:57:53 +0000

Although I am ideologically in support of car-free areas, I’m not sure this would be the best option here.

But at any rate, it’s pretty easy to zone vehicle deliveries for the morning or certain times of the day. That’s what they do on Maiden Lane, for example and in Montpellier, France, which was, at the time I lived there, the largest ped zone in Europe. There are other solutions that aren’t black-and-white, including compromise, co-existence…

By: James

James — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 21:53:31 +0000

Right! Because there are no cities in the world that supply businesses without trucks….

Also, the most center divide parking I ever saw was in front of Lost Weekend.

By: Adam G.

Adam G. — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 21:35:11 +0000

Yeah, man, let’s like, close a huge stretch of Valencia. Delivery trucks won’t be able to supply businesses. The traffic jams going around it will be terrible, making life miserable to bikers, peds, and drivers alike. But hey, we’d finally get a four block stretch of car-free land. Great idea, man.

Or, less sarcastically, if you want to still have a drink at Puerto Alegre, you can’t cut off supply lines.

By: friscolex

friscolex — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 21:16:59 +0000

New pavement wheeeeeeeeeee! End of construction wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Double parking enforcement… we’ll work on that one.

By: rick springfield

rick springfield — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 20:11:06 +0000

i think you’re forgetting that businesses and residences get deliveries on a daily basis. i’m also a bit annoyed by the line, “First of all, that wide, unnecessary, center-dividing ‘parking lot’ has been eliminated…” i think those “unnecessary” spaces prevented delivery trucks from double parking and/or blocking bike lanes. the previous layout seemed to allow space for everyone: bicyclists, pedestrians, cars and delivery trucks.