Comments on: 'Next KKKatie' Just a Levi's Marketing Tool?

By: a game

a game — Sun, 01 Jan 2012 17:42:28 +0000

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By: hoboking

hoboking — Fri, 17 Sep 2010 21:53:19 +0000

Since many people on this blog thread appear to know where bad jeans manufacturing practices take place, I’m wondering – who has the worst labor practices? The most heinous sweatshops? The most stomach churning abuses of their employees?

I’d like to know so I can buy their jeans, I want to do my part in hastening the inevitable crisis of capitalism by pushing it to its logical limits of exploitation. Plus I bet they sell their jeans for the least money.

By: Cranky Old Mission Guy

Cranky Old Mission Guy — Fri, 17 Sep 2010 19:28:53 +0000

I think it’s pretty clear that I’ve been mocking the carbon-paper lefty cant that you used in your initial reply to the original MM posting. That’s exactly the kind of crap that is so divorced from the niggling details of the real world that it turns people off from digging any deeper. So now we get a link to something more interesting… great, were you waiting for someone to beg?

By the way, I’m still working-class, and I still have to buy $35 Levi’s, no matter where they were made.

By: Rod

Rod — Fri, 17 Sep 2010 19:11:56 +0000

aside from all the abstraction, what’s your real case here? it’s not too clear what you are arguing here, are you saying that it’s not fact that Levi’s has made jeans in China under poor conditions? or denying that there are Levi’s that there are Levi’s that cost $60? let’s actually talk about the facts.

btw here’s a fun article about Levi’s practices in Lethoso: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/africa/article6736113.ece

By: Cranky Old Mission Guy

Cranky Old Mission Guy — Fri, 17 Sep 2010 19:04:04 +0000

Like I said, fellas, enjoy your lefty cliches to the max! Why bother to do due diligence to make a real case, when you can just throw around a lot of ready-made talking points with the justification that it surely is true SOMEWHERE. Keep preaching to the choir, Fox News of the left.

And, yes, my interest in the world around me pretty much does stop at the border of your sanctimony. If you want to call it something else, I guess that will work for you; I’m well aware that the world doesn’t revolve around me. Neither, for that matter, does it owe you any special attention unless you can make a real argument about the real world. New College rhetoric isn’t enough.

By: Sheabones

Sheabones — Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:46:42 +0000

…though they may attract slightly pedantic replies

By: Rod

Rod — Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:37:06 +0000

. . . and we’ve gone meta

By: Sheabones

Sheabones — Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:35:25 +0000

Just buy vintage Levi’s. They’re cheaper, stronger, better looking, made in San Francisco and they won’t attract self-righteous PC posts on blogs.

By: MrEricSir

MrEricSir — Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:32:57 +0000

China, Lesotho… yeah I don’t think either of those places are in the Mission.

By: Rod

Rod — Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:21:49 +0000

i regret to be the one to inform you that the world does not revolve around you. the fact that you own a pair of cheap Levi’s that was made in Lesotho doesn’t somehow negate the fact that there are Levi’s that go for well over $60 and there are Levi’s that are made in sweatshops in China, among other places. but feel free to ignore any real facts you choose if it clears your conscience.

By: Cranky Old Mission Guy

Cranky Old Mission Guy — Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:08:25 +0000

Um, actually, my Levi’s (505s) were made in Lesotho, and cost less than $35, and I’m about as far from a “rich, artsy kid” as it is possible to get. But carry on — don’t let facts get in the way of your cliches.

By: Rod

Rod — Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:30:31 +0000

everyone’s work is equally important, so long as that work is done in the third world under “slavelike” conditions (that’s how the US Dept of Labor has described the condition of Chinese Levi’s laborers.)

why pay Americans when you can get slaves and then, rather than pass on the savings to your customers, use the profits to open an advertising storefront to attract rich, artsy kids who will buy your $60 jeans?

By: MrEricSir

MrEricSir — Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:05:04 +0000

Hey Levi’s, I have a great idea for a promotion: re-opening your jeans factory in the Mission.