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	<title>Comments on: Why No Bikes on BART Escalators?</title>
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		<title>By: Abbie R.Hale</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2010/11/08/why-no-bikes-on-bart-escalators/#comment-104743</link>
		<dc:creator>Abbie R.Hale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2014 08:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They just want to avoid any accidents in the escalator,because having a bicycle in the escalator has a chance that it will jam. Speaking of escalator try to check this bicycle escalator http://www.exploretalent.com/articles/ride-norways-first-bike-escalator/ . What do you think?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They just want to avoid any accidents in the escalator,because having a bicycle in the escalator has a chance that it will jam. Speaking of escalator try to check this bicycle escalator <a href="http://www.exploretalent.com/articles/ride-norways-first-bike-escalator/" rel="nofollow">http://www.exploretalent.com/articles/ride-norways-first-bike-escalator/</a> . What do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: C money</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2010/11/08/why-no-bikes-on-bart-escalators/#comment-95806</link>
		<dc:creator>C money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Nov 2013 18:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I almost got a ticket last night for taking my bike up the escalator. I&#039;m a petite female. Last night I had a full bladder and I know a going up the stairs in the cold holding a bike would cause me to lose my load. The officers detained me, and then i was let go. 

but I was wondering- isnt the Bart privately owned and isn&#039;t it out of their jurisdiction to ticket onI private property?  I question this as a city or state law?  I asked the cop but cops dont know usually know.  Does anyone know?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I almost got a ticket last night for taking my bike up the escalator. I&#8217;m a petite female. Last night I had a full bladder and I know a going up the stairs in the cold holding a bike would cause me to lose my load. The officers detained me, and then i was let go. </p>
<p>but I was wondering- isnt the Bart privately owned and isn&#8217;t it out of their jurisdiction to ticket onI private property?  I question this as a city or state law?  I asked the cop but cops dont know usually know.  Does anyone know?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve N</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2010/11/08/why-no-bikes-on-bart-escalators/#comment-80476</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jul 2013 07:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you look at the photo, the front wheel is jammed up against the step in front.  As the steps level out at the top landing the tyre can become entrapped between the two steps.  On US specification escalators this will trip the step upthrust safety switches and stop the escalator.

Inconvenient at best and potenitally dangerous if passengers lose their balance when the escalator unexpectantly stops (if you fall on an escalator, you can go all the way to the bottom and there have been fatalities due to falls).

It can also cause mechanical damage to the steps which untimately can cause them to crash into the combs at the landing with catastrophic consequences. Broken steps = mincing machine!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you look at the photo, the front wheel is jammed up against the step in front.  As the steps level out at the top landing the tyre can become entrapped between the two steps.  On US specification escalators this will trip the step upthrust safety switches and stop the escalator.</p>
<p>Inconvenient at best and potenitally dangerous if passengers lose their balance when the escalator unexpectantly stops (if you fall on an escalator, you can go all the way to the bottom and there have been fatalities due to falls).</p>
<p>It can also cause mechanical damage to the steps which untimately can cause them to crash into the combs at the landing with catastrophic consequences. Broken steps = mincing machine!</p>
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		<title>By: rick</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2010/11/08/why-no-bikes-on-bart-escalators/#comment-73351</link>
		<dc:creator>rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 05:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I witnessed a crowded escalator malfunction in Washington DC subway. Believe me, if there had been bikes on that thing when it gave way and slid backwards hurling everyone on it downward, I am sure there would have been many more serious injuries. So, quit whining about it and just pay attention to the safety precautions and stop acting like you&#039;re the only person in the world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I witnessed a crowded escalator malfunction in Washington DC subway. Believe me, if there had been bikes on that thing when it gave way and slid backwards hurling everyone on it downward, I am sure there would have been many more serious injuries. So, quit whining about it and just pay attention to the safety precautions and stop acting like you&#8217;re the only person in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2010/11/08/why-no-bikes-on-bart-escalators/#comment-46050</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m disabled enough that I wouldn&#039;t be able to carry a bike up the stairs, but not too disabled to ride (usually). I take the bike up the elevator when I can, but the couple of times I&#039;ve gotten off at a station where the elevator was out of service, I&#039;ve taken it up the escalator.

I&#039;d mind the elevators less if they didn&#039;t smell like pee about half the time, and if they weren&#039;t so inconveniently placed. (Sometimes it feels like the downtown stations might as well share elevators, as I walk about halfway to Montgomery from Powell to use one.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m disabled enough that I wouldn&#8217;t be able to carry a bike up the stairs, but not too disabled to ride (usually). I take the bike up the elevator when I can, but the couple of times I&#8217;ve gotten off at a station where the elevator was out of service, I&#8217;ve taken it up the escalator.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d mind the elevators less if they didn&#8217;t smell like pee about half the time, and if they weren&#8217;t so inconveniently placed. (Sometimes it feels like the downtown stations might as well share elevators, as I walk about halfway to Montgomery from Powell to use one.)</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony F.</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2010/11/08/why-no-bikes-on-bart-escalators/#comment-41728</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Big deal. Let the riders ride and the haters hate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big deal. Let the riders ride and the haters hate.</p>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2010/11/08/why-no-bikes-on-bart-escalators/#comment-41727</link>
		<dc:creator>Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your analogy only makes sense if you are used to seeing people wearing clothing made of rigid metal tubing.  

I would also like to go on record as supporting the banning of rigid metal tubing clothes on BART escalators.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your analogy only makes sense if you are used to seeing people wearing clothing made of rigid metal tubing.  </p>
<p>I would also like to go on record as supporting the banning of rigid metal tubing clothes on BART escalators.</p>
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		<title>By: Theodore Sternberg</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2010/11/08/why-no-bikes-on-bart-escalators/#comment-41725</link>
		<dc:creator>Theodore Sternberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 18:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The scenario where a bike gets wedged between the escalator and the stainless steel wall it moves past seems a lot less likely than clothing getting stuck there.  I doubt either is a real danger but if BART thinks it is then they should immediately ban anyone with loose clothing from the escalators!

As for losing control over your bicycle, that seems a lot more likely walking it down stairs, than holding it while you&#039;re getting lifted, yourself mostly motionless, by an escalator.

This controversy isn&#039;t about engineering or safety though.  It&#039;s about culture.  A lot of non-bicyclists hate bicyclists -- for their youth, for their health, often for their presumed politics and education, and yes, because some bicyclists are jerks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The scenario where a bike gets wedged between the escalator and the stainless steel wall it moves past seems a lot less likely than clothing getting stuck there.  I doubt either is a real danger but if BART thinks it is then they should immediately ban anyone with loose clothing from the escalators!</p>
<p>As for losing control over your bicycle, that seems a lot more likely walking it down stairs, than holding it while you&#8217;re getting lifted, yourself mostly motionless, by an escalator.</p>
<p>This controversy isn&#8217;t about engineering or safety though.  It&#8217;s about culture.  A lot of non-bicyclists hate bicyclists &#8212; for their youth, for their health, often for their presumed politics and education, and yes, because some bicyclists are jerks.</p>
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		<title>By: Eyad</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2010/11/08/why-no-bikes-on-bart-escalators/#comment-24669</link>
		<dc:creator>Eyad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 00:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#039;re not an asshole you can ride on the escalator with your bike and still leave enough room for other people to pass by. But since most people are assholes this rule is a good one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re not an asshole you can ride on the escalator with your bike and still leave enough room for other people to pass by. But since most people are assholes this rule is a good one.</p>
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		<title>By: Jym Dyer</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2010/11/08/why-no-bikes-on-bart-escalators/#comment-24668</link>
		<dc:creator>Jym Dyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2010 19:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Robert - She&#039;s just posing, and as with the other photos in her flickr stream, she&#039;s standing on the chain side of the bike to show off its colorful frame.  In real, non-posed, situations I&#039;ve mostly seen bicyclists holding their bikes with the chain side towards the right wall, leaving room for others to pass on the left.

  In any event, unlike the children&#039;s Crocs with holes that perfectly fit into escalator tines, bicycle wheels are much too big to get grabbed like that.

=v= BART&#039;s policy does not apply to street-level escalators at the combo Muni/BART stops on Market Street, and somehow bicyclists have been using those for decades without disastrous consequences.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Robert &#8211; She&#8217;s just posing, and as with the other photos in her flickr stream, she&#8217;s standing on the chain side of the bike to show off its colorful frame.  In real, non-posed, situations I&#8217;ve mostly seen bicyclists holding their bikes with the chain side towards the right wall, leaving room for others to pass on the left.</p>
<p>  In any event, unlike the children&#8217;s Crocs with holes that perfectly fit into escalator tines, bicycle wheels are much too big to get grabbed like that.</p>
<p>=v= BART&#8217;s policy does not apply to street-level escalators at the combo Muni/BART stops on Market Street, and somehow bicyclists have been using those for decades without disastrous consequences.</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine Roberts</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2010/11/08/why-no-bikes-on-bart-escalators/#comment-24667</link>
		<dc:creator>Katherine Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2010 08:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, what a tempest in a teapot. I put my bike on the escalator because I have a very bad back injury I got from inadvertently blocking a speeding car one time in the middle of a high-speed police chase. That made me hate cars all right, but I am nowhere near strong enough to carry my bike up and down stairs. So I take it on the escalator instead. So far I have only decapitated one person, but she was old anyway, and probably didn&#039;t have that much longer to live. I also caused two, or maybe three at MOST, amputations. And I put ONE person&#039;s eye out. Aside from this, nothing. So unless I was REALLY doing something seriously dangerous, I don&#039;t think anyone has a thing to complain about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, what a tempest in a teapot. I put my bike on the escalator because I have a very bad back injury I got from inadvertently blocking a speeding car one time in the middle of a high-speed police chase. That made me hate cars all right, but I am nowhere near strong enough to carry my bike up and down stairs. So I take it on the escalator instead. So far I have only decapitated one person, but she was old anyway, and probably didn&#8217;t have that much longer to live. I also caused two, or maybe three at MOST, amputations. And I put ONE person&#8217;s eye out. Aside from this, nothing. So unless I was REALLY doing something seriously dangerous, I don&#8217;t think anyone has a thing to complain about.</p>
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		<title>By: Mickey</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2010/11/08/why-no-bikes-on-bart-escalators/#comment-24666</link>
		<dc:creator>Mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2010 00:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And I&#039;ll bet you were late for the train because the BART cop took the time to chew you out. Happen like that to me :&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I&#8217;ll bet you were late for the train because the BART cop took the time to chew you out. Happen like that to me :&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert L Krieger</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2010/11/08/why-no-bikes-on-bart-escalators/#comment-24665</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert L Krieger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 13:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Take a look at the picture!!!
Her front tire is rubbing against the stationary part of the escalator.  If it grabs the tire just like the famous children’s shoes the bike will be jerked out of her hands!

It&#039;s sad that she can not see this.  I hope no one gets hurt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at the picture!!!<br />
Her front tire is rubbing against the stationary part of the escalator.  If it grabs the tire just like the famous children’s shoes the bike will be jerked out of her hands!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s sad that she can not see this.  I hope no one gets hurt.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert L Krieger</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2010/11/08/why-no-bikes-on-bart-escalators/#comment-24664</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert L Krieger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 13:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s just this simple. People are people. By stating the rules, Bart serves the duty to provide a safe place.  People who use their bikes or any wheeled traffic for that matter, assume the risk of doing so in spite of the warnings and therefore are liable for any damage or injuries they cause as a result of their negligence on conveyances which are considered &quot;common carriers&quot;. Such rules come, regretfully, from people injured on such conveyances.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s just this simple. People are people. By stating the rules, Bart serves the duty to provide a safe place.  People who use their bikes or any wheeled traffic for that matter, assume the risk of doing so in spite of the warnings and therefore are liable for any damage or injuries they cause as a result of their negligence on conveyances which are considered &#8220;common carriers&#8221;. Such rules come, regretfully, from people injured on such conveyances.</p>
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		<title>By: kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 04:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Easy to be cranky typing someone&#039;s an idiot online but not easy talking face to face. If a person is in your way you can try saying  &quot;PLEASE move your bike. THANKS!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Easy to be cranky typing someone&#8217;s an idiot online but not easy talking face to face. If a person is in your way you can try saying  &#8220;PLEASE move your bike. THANKS!&#8221;</p>
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