Comments on: Cesar Chavez Street Redesign Is Happening

By: John Bretthauer the owner of San Jose CA Realtor

John Bretthauer the owner of San Jose CA Realtor — Fri, 17 Dec 2010 16:42:53 +0000

The design seems great. It would help the traffic. There will be no Uturn for that?? Is that will sometimes affect our riders?

By: SCUM

SCUM — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 21:49:55 +0000

Where are all the day laborer’s going to go while this is going on? And what are they going to about the mini projects? And the impact of an already problematic traffic issue?

By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable

Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 04:35:36 +0000

Oh boy, where to start, bite me?

Have you been getting your data from CW Nevius columns in the Chronicle or something? San Francisco is neither unfriendly to business, nor is there any paucity of businesses starting in the city or, indeed, moving around within the city. It is is not without reason that San Francisco is a major worldwide technology and business hub.

Businesses move out of the city when they can’t find real estate that meets their requirements, not because of some imaginary “anti-business climate”. To claim otherwise is farcical.

ON the OTHER hand, what you say about Public Transit makes a good amount of sense. Some.. or, rather, MANY people DO need to commute in a car. And many of THEM do not have the luxury of co-workers that they would be able to carpool with. For the SFBC, or anyone else, to suggest otherwise is just plain silly.

By: bite me

bite me — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 04:21:06 +0000

Oh boy, where to start, JD?

Let me ask you this, why are there so many people commuting out of the City down to their jobs on the Peninsula and South Bay in the first place?

Could it have anything to do with the anti-business climate in SF which forces many employers to either move out of the City, or even worse, to not even consider setting up shop here even when a significant percentage of their workforce actually resides here?

Believe me, people who commute south and use CC to get to 101 would much rather not have to do that, but what’s the alternative, JD?

Oh, yeah, public transit, riiiight? If you don’t happen to work for a company that provides a fancy (and free) shuttle for you, you can expect to spend HOURS and significantly MORE money than what you would spend on the operating costs of your vehicle to get to and from work.

If there was a viable alternative, people would use it, and as a result you would see less traffic on CC during commute hours. So get off your fucking high horse for a minute and realize that not everyone is as lucky as you are—to be able to live and work in SF. If you even work, that is.

By: sflandlord

sflandlord — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 01:07:30 +0000

I don’t see that much of a demand for bike traffic on the North-South Cesar Chavez corridor. I see this ending up like Potrero where there is a bike lane that is pretty much unused becasue its unsafe, since its pretty much an extended freeway onramp/offramp(same goes for the bike lane on San Jose).

By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable

Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 00:41:25 +0000

I actually still say “Army Street” sometimes, though I generally catch myself, or at least correct myself. That wasn’t what I was confused about, you said “It’s Army”, which is demonstrably false, as opposed to “It WAS Army” which, similarly, is demonstrably true.

By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable

Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 00:39:14 +0000

Wow, really? If so, that is a pleasant surprise!

By: Allan Hough

Allan Hough — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 00:35:43 +0000

Clinging to old names is so boring. Embrace the new!

By: kasmander

kasmander — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 00:34:06 +0000

Some who have lived there for a while still call it Army. You know, from back when the Mission was the Irish-Polish neighborhood But I’m glad you went straight to hatred of Mexicans as an answer.

By: Amy

Amy — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 00:30:06 +0000

because Valencia and Folsom are both north-south and Cesar Chavez is east-west.

By: treesbikesboys

treesbikesboys — Wed, 01 Dec 2010 23:43:35 +0000

Actually, CC from Hampshire to Illinois is going to break ground in 2012. Caltrans/MTA social-justice grants are funding it. Community meetings will be popping up in the winter/spring.

I used to commute on Potrero and ride on CC when I have to, and I can’t wait for the reworked Chavez.

By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable

Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable — Wed, 01 Dec 2010 22:42:34 +0000

I think this is an absolutely terrific idea. The bike fascistitos, not so much:

http://sf.streetsblog.org/2010/11/29/cesar-chavez-street-redesign-plan-headed-to-sfmta-board-for-approval/

By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable

Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable — Wed, 01 Dec 2010 22:40:16 +0000

I would assume no time soon, since that stretch is mainly, if not totally, non-residential.

By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable

Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable — Wed, 01 Dec 2010 22:39:30 +0000

Kasmander: What are you talking about? Cesar Chavez hasn’t been Army Street in years.

By: Cranky Old Mission Guy

Cranky Old Mission Guy — Wed, 01 Dec 2010 22:06:18 +0000

Why jou hate us Mehicanos?!