Comments on: Kink.com to open Armory-adjacent bar for cocktail enthusiasts and cock and tail enthusiasts

By: why not

why not — Mon, 01 Aug 2011 22:20:01 +0000

Who got fucked over? The past owner seems happy, and there’s no reason the bartenders can’t get rehired.

Lot’s of restaurants shut down or change hands in SF every year.

By: nope

nope — Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:19:45 +0000

Wake up folks, Peter Acworth is not some “sex positive” messiah. He’s a businessman, who saw there was a market for fetish related porn, with normal looking “models”. He used that same big business mentality to shut down a good place. The smoking in the Ace was legal, it was an owner-operator business, and a few months before they closed they did go smoke free.

This was a blue collar bar for everybody (ok, “everybody” who smoked and liked motorcycles and didn’t need liquor). Peter could have opened up a bar anywhere, but he chose to fuck over a bunch of good people.

By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable

Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable — Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:55:57 +0000

*shrug* Everyone I know that has worked for them has been extremely dis-satisfied with the experience, to put it diplomatically.

By: scum

scum — Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:40:16 +0000

At night and during Moto Gp races it was packed. The bar was owner operated so it was legal to smoke in there until the law changed.

By: DockLord

DockLord — Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:10:43 +0000

I think this is another positive evolution of the once run down mission neighborhood. ACE’s was never much of a draw. Never more than 3 or 5 people in there. Plus, its was full of cigarette smoke and last i checked it is illegal to smoke inside a bar in cali so they were breaking the law. Also, I have asthma so I could never stay in there long (thanx for killing me and breaking the law Aces). Maybe kink will take it over and it will become a popular spot and employee more local people.

By: DockLord

DockLord — Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:05:53 +0000

I know a lot of people who work there and they seem very proud and happy to work for kink. But then again I guess some of the models get paid to be treated like shit, so maybe that is what you are referring to. ha!

By: DockLord

DockLord — Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:03:20 +0000

Me too!! I like burgers the food there now sucks.

By: Tamovascualar

Tamovascualar — Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:05:29 +0000

I hope they serve bondage burgers.

By: scum

scum — Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:21:45 +0000

I know the owner of Ace and I also know someone pretty high up at Kink and nothing I have posted is rumor or hearsay.

By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable

Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable — Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:45:02 +0000

Definitely good that the Armory is being used again. Sad that Kink treats their employees like shit, though.

By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable

Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable — Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:44:21 +0000

heh. That’s pretty funny.

By: Chris

Chris — Tue, 12 Jul 2011 07:23:02 +0000

Yeah, it sucks that a few people at the cafe lost their jobs, but Kink is going to have to hire a bunch of people to replace them. And they’ve given a lot of really good jobs to a bunch of people now working at the Armory across the street. I know some people are going to miss the old bar, but this is definitely going to be a good change. Also, the Armory has never looked better or been busier after sitting vacant and unused for decades, but nobody ever seems to say anything good about that.

By: Race

Race — Tue, 12 Jul 2011 06:29:29 +0000

‘had the back door open for ventilation’ – that sounds classy… and hilarious.

By: Sam

Sam — Tue, 12 Jul 2011 06:09:16 +0000

I agree, but I wonder what the new place will be like.

By: Spank

Spank — Tue, 12 Jul 2011 05:51:27 +0000

You know, all of this is rumor and here say, but if it is true, and kink does get a bar, bravo! It’s about time that the BDSM community gets a public, loud and proud place of their own, especially in this city.