Comments on: Don’t get doored http://www.missionmission.org/2011/08/31/dont-get-doored/ Saluting San Francisco's Mission District Tue, 28 Apr 2026 15:29:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.6.1 By: Cranky Old Mission Guy http://www.missionmission.org/2011/08/31/dont-get-doored/#comment-39058 Cranky Old Mission Guy Wed, 07 Sep 2011 23:20:37 +0000 http://www.missionmission.org/?p=31253#comment-39058 That would make too much sense to actually be implemented in law.

]]> By: Burrito Justice http://www.missionmission.org/2011/08/31/dont-get-doored/#comment-39057 Burrito Justice Wed, 07 Sep 2011 23:00:33 +0000 http://www.missionmission.org/?p=31253#comment-39057 I don’t have a definitive source for this, but I believe that a lot of European countries require you to open the driver side door with your opposite hand when exiting your car — that way you are forced to look out and back. Even heard that you can fail a driving test that way.

A good idea, regardless.

]]> By: Cranky Old Mission Guy http://www.missionmission.org/2011/08/31/dont-get-doored/#comment-39051 Cranky Old Mission Guy Wed, 07 Sep 2011 22:31:01 +0000 http://www.missionmission.org/?p=31253#comment-39051 Are you saying that GG drives without insurance?

]]> By: cb http://www.missionmission.org/2011/08/31/dont-get-doored/#comment-39049 cb Wed, 07 Sep 2011 22:27:54 +0000 http://www.missionmission.org/?p=31253#comment-39049 That sentence reads like a drip.

]]> By: padre mission http://www.missionmission.org/2011/08/31/dont-get-doored/#comment-38978 padre mission Tue, 06 Sep 2011 08:31:10 +0000 http://www.missionmission.org/?p=31253#comment-38978 It’s almost always men (fathers) doin it. We’re dumb like that. My wifey hipped me to how dumbass dads are – taking their kids out to the bagel shop in PJs and Crocs. You can always tell when it’s ‘dad’s turn’ – we’re idiots and should not be in charge of important shit like kids and government. I have 3 kids and do dumb shit on the reg. I do not do the # 1 stupid-ass new dad move: throwing your babies up in the air and catching them – well I’ve done it a few times – but it just screams DUMBASS NEW DAD!!!!I just shake my head when I see that. Stay off the road with those kids.

]]> By: ok http://www.missionmission.org/2011/08/31/dont-get-doored/#comment-38976 ok Tue, 06 Sep 2011 06:27:47 +0000 http://www.missionmission.org/?p=31253#comment-38976 post script script?

]]> By: Cranky Old Mission Guy http://www.missionmission.org/2011/08/31/dont-get-doored/#comment-38951 Cranky Old Mission Guy Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:23:11 +0000 http://www.missionmission.org/?p=31253#comment-38951 It’s relevant because the fatalities for motorcycles include deaths on SF freeways. Motorcycle accidents on freeways are more likely to be fatal because the speeds involved are higher. Bicycles don’t go on freeways — therefore, the statistics are skewed to show more danger on motorcycles. The two fatality rates are not really comparable, because they are not derived from comparable situations.

If you want to do a meaningful statistical analysis of the two forms of transportation, you have to comb through the numbers and eliminate those that come from freeways and freeway on-ramps.

]]> By: triple0 http://www.missionmission.org/2011/08/31/dont-get-doored/#comment-38943 triple0 Sat, 03 Sep 2011 00:59:52 +0000 http://www.missionmission.org/?p=31253#comment-38943 While true, how is that relevant to the discussion? On any type of street in SF, it still holds true:

Riding a motorcycle in SF is more dangerous than riding a bike.

]]> By: EH http://www.missionmission.org/2011/08/31/dont-get-doored/#comment-38885 EH Thu, 01 Sep 2011 22:27:48 +0000 http://www.missionmission.org/?p=31253#comment-38885 Shoaling dicks and bitches are more dangerous than cars on my Valencia -> Downtown commute.

]]> By: EH http://www.missionmission.org/2011/08/31/dont-get-doored/#comment-38883 EH Thu, 01 Sep 2011 22:21:47 +0000 http://www.missionmission.org/?p=31253#comment-38883 including our fellow riders

]]> By: EH http://www.missionmission.org/2011/08/31/dont-get-doored/#comment-38882 EH Thu, 01 Sep 2011 22:20:56 +0000 http://www.missionmission.org/?p=31253#comment-38882 neither do you

]]> By: Cranky Old Mission Guy http://www.missionmission.org/2011/08/31/dont-get-doored/#comment-38872 Cranky Old Mission Guy Thu, 01 Sep 2011 21:26:47 +0000 http://www.missionmission.org/?p=31253#comment-38872 Motorcyclists ride on freeways; bicyclists don’t.

]]> By: triple0 http://www.missionmission.org/2011/08/31/dont-get-doored/#comment-38870 triple0 Thu, 01 Sep 2011 21:13:26 +0000 http://www.missionmission.org/?p=31253#comment-38870 The SF fatality rate for bike / motorcycles (SWITRS) are:
2005: 3 / 2
2006: 2 / 4
2007: 1 / 5
2008: 3 / 8
2009: 1 / 8

That’s grand total of:
10 dead bicycle riders to
27 dead motorcyclists.

Nearly three times as many people bike as ride motorcycles in SF, according to the SFMTA (Transportation Fact Sheet 2009).

So, that makes a eight times as likely to die on a motorcycle than a bicycle. Sorry – ‘assumption’ confirmed.

]]> By: t.hanks http://www.missionmission.org/2011/08/31/dont-get-doored/#comment-38859 t.hanks Thu, 01 Sep 2011 20:18:49 +0000 http://www.missionmission.org/?p=31253#comment-38859 personally i wouldn’t do it. the idea of getting into a bike accident with a baby on-board is not a pleasant one.

even if you and everyone else on the road with you is being careful, sometimes shit just happens that you can’t prevent. like sometimes you randomly get a pinch-flat that makes you take a little spill, usually not that big a deal, but it would be catastrophic with a baby involved . . .

]]> By: Cranky Old Mission Guy http://www.missionmission.org/2011/08/31/dont-get-doored/#comment-38846 Cranky Old Mission Guy Thu, 01 Sep 2011 19:10:58 +0000 http://www.missionmission.org/?p=31253#comment-38846 I don’t like it, wouldn’t do it, and consider it the same kind of child endangerment as leaving unlocked handguns in your bed-stand drawer. But kids get hurt and killed in car accidents, too, so I guess childhood survival depends, in part, on how paranoid your parents are.

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