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	<title>Comments on: CONTEST: Win tickets to Bob Mould in conversation with Shepard Fairey</title>
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		<title>By: gaak99</title>
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		<dc:creator>gaak99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 09:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Was in college in downtown Atl bought New Day Rising on vinyl when it was released.

Blew my mind.  &quot;I Apologize&quot; and &quot;Celebrated Summer&quot; killed.  Pre-emo-punk anthems I sing in the shower to this day.

When I moved to the Yay and visited Gilman I was amazed and delighted at how many young bands covered &quot;Celebrated Summer&quot;.  And in Bob&#039;s new autobio even Pete Townsend gives the song props.

I was in the pit (a mere 100yards from GaTech Tower&#039;s dorm via tunnel under I-75) for that tour at the 688 club.  Bob was bloated and pasty white and sporting a toque as the weather was nearly as cold as Minny.   But to finally see them live for the first time was amazing.

After that I backtracked to &quot;Zen Arcade&quot; and &quot;Chartered Trips&quot;  became my fave song for years.

And also backtracked to &quot;Metal Circus&quot; and &quot;Real World&quot; is song that often pops into my head these days when I see the Black Bloc and such around the Mission.

After the 688 show I saw them live at the UGA cafeteria(!) with frenemy Bulldog pals.  Bob mentions that show in the autobio.  Soul Asylum opened and was the first we heard of them.

I also saw them at Emory U outside in Fall 87 when &quot;Warehouse&quot; was released and they were on the verge of breakup.  I was new to the MathCS dept and bonded with another newbie and went to the show and have been best friends ever since (Hi Colm).

&quot;Warehouse&quot; was an (double) album I hated for the first 50 listens.  Then I got it.   Loved it ever since.  &quot;These Important Years&quot; should be given to every college grad / young adult.

After the breakup saw a slimmed-down Bob and fancy-dressed high-priced players for the &quot;Workbook&quot; tour at the Cotten Club in Atl.  &quot;See A Little Light&quot; is a post-depression classic.

I was not the biggest Sugar fan but Ioved David Barbe&#039;s earlier band Mercyland.  And he was living my dream playing with Bob.  And he deserved it so much.

And I can&#039;t resist adding at least one url here.  My fave cover of all time is &quot;Eight Miles High&quot; by Huskers.   Just fuckn rocks.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBKyBlJ_JN8

Play it loud.


&quot;Getting drunk out on the street or playing in a band /
  When getting out school means getting out of haaaannd /
  Is/Was this your celebrated summer?&quot;

...gaak99

ps.  In Bob&#039;s autobio all the music info is great, but the surprise --wow-- chapter is the pro wrestling script consultant one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was in college in downtown Atl bought New Day Rising on vinyl when it was released.</p>
<p>Blew my mind.  &#8220;I Apologize&#8221; and &#8220;Celebrated Summer&#8221; killed.  Pre-emo-punk anthems I sing in the shower to this day.</p>
<p>When I moved to the Yay and visited Gilman I was amazed and delighted at how many young bands covered &#8220;Celebrated Summer&#8221;.  And in Bob&#8217;s new autobio even Pete Townsend gives the song props.</p>
<p>I was in the pit (a mere 100yards from GaTech Tower&#8217;s dorm via tunnel under I-75) for that tour at the 688 club.  Bob was bloated and pasty white and sporting a toque as the weather was nearly as cold as Minny.   But to finally see them live for the first time was amazing.</p>
<p>After that I backtracked to &#8220;Zen Arcade&#8221; and &#8220;Chartered Trips&#8221;  became my fave song for years.</p>
<p>And also backtracked to &#8220;Metal Circus&#8221; and &#8220;Real World&#8221; is song that often pops into my head these days when I see the Black Bloc and such around the Mission.</p>
<p>After the 688 show I saw them live at the UGA cafeteria(!) with frenemy Bulldog pals.  Bob mentions that show in the autobio.  Soul Asylum opened and was the first we heard of them.</p>
<p>I also saw them at Emory U outside in Fall 87 when &#8220;Warehouse&#8221; was released and they were on the verge of breakup.  I was new to the MathCS dept and bonded with another newbie and went to the show and have been best friends ever since (Hi Colm).</p>
<p>&#8220;Warehouse&#8221; was an (double) album I hated for the first 50 listens.  Then I got it.   Loved it ever since.  &#8220;These Important Years&#8221; should be given to every college grad / young adult.</p>
<p>After the breakup saw a slimmed-down Bob and fancy-dressed high-priced players for the &#8220;Workbook&#8221; tour at the Cotten Club in Atl.  &#8220;See A Little Light&#8221; is a post-depression classic.</p>
<p>I was not the biggest Sugar fan but Ioved David Barbe&#8217;s earlier band Mercyland.  And he was living my dream playing with Bob.  And he deserved it so much.</p>
<p>And I can&#8217;t resist adding at least one url here.  My fave cover of all time is &#8220;Eight Miles High&#8221; by Huskers.   Just fuckn rocks.</p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBKyBlJ_JN8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBKyBlJ_JN8</a></p>
<p>Play it loud.</p>
<p>&#8220;Getting drunk out on the street or playing in a band /<br />
  When getting out school means getting out of haaaannd /<br />
  Is/Was this your celebrated summer?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;gaak99</p>
<p>ps.  In Bob&#8217;s autobio all the music info is great, but the surprise &#8211;wow&#8211; chapter is the pro wrestling script consultant one.</p>
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		<title>By: carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 06:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was interested in the early street art scene, but being from small town midwest didn&#039;t have much firsthand knowledge or involvement. I went to DC one year to skate during spring break, and found an Obey sticker near the reflecting pool, peeled it and put it on my CD player. Even back then (like 98), finding stuff like that made you feel like you were part of something that not everyone knew about. That sentiment is gone now.

When is the Obey for Target line coming out???]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was interested in the early street art scene, but being from small town midwest didn&#8217;t have much firsthand knowledge or involvement. I went to DC one year to skate during spring break, and found an Obey sticker near the reflecting pool, peeled it and put it on my CD player. Even back then (like 98), finding stuff like that made you feel like you were part of something that not everyone knew about. That sentiment is gone now.</p>
<p>When is the Obey for Target line coming out???</p>
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		<title>By: El Jeffe</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Jeffe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 05:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a Shepard Fairey anecdote, for what it&#039;s worth.   Sometime around 2002, I happened upon a rather cool-looking yard sale in Portland, OR.  The guy had piles of old concert and show posters for sale, among other piles of furniture and apartment detritus. The posters were mostly from local shows; defunct local bands I&#039;d never heard of (he explained that he was a promoter for a time).

Lo and behold, I came upon FOUR full-sized Shepard fairey prints in the mix, each signed and dated (from 96 and 97).  One of the original Andre The Giant &quot;NY Wall&quot; prints, two prints from the Black Panther set, and one with an Andre superimposed over a Chairman-Mao looking fellow.  Skeptically, I asked him, how much?  $3 each, he replied.  Five minutes and $12 later I was scurrying home with the posters in tow.
  
So that&#039;s that.  And for all the Shepard Fairey haters, I don&#039;t give a shit about how original they are - I think they look fucking cool.  That&#039;s all that matters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a Shepard Fairey anecdote, for what it&#8217;s worth.   Sometime around 2002, I happened upon a rather cool-looking yard sale in Portland, OR.  The guy had piles of old concert and show posters for sale, among other piles of furniture and apartment detritus. The posters were mostly from local shows; defunct local bands I&#8217;d never heard of (he explained that he was a promoter for a time).</p>
<p>Lo and behold, I came upon FOUR full-sized Shepard fairey prints in the mix, each signed and dated (from 96 and 97).  One of the original Andre The Giant &#8220;NY Wall&#8221; prints, two prints from the Black Panther set, and one with an Andre superimposed over a Chairman-Mao looking fellow.  Skeptically, I asked him, how much?  $3 each, he replied.  Five minutes and $12 later I was scurrying home with the posters in tow.</p>
<p>So that&#8217;s that.  And for all the Shepard Fairey haters, I don&#8217;t give a shit about how original they are &#8211; I think they look fucking cool.  That&#8217;s all that matters.</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
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		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fuct the ravewear company?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuct the ravewear company?</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
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		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Pop artists acknowledge their referents.&lt;/i&gt;

Is that so? Are they required to publicize this acknowledgement lest they be thought illegitimate? &quot;But you see, he&#039;s not a &lt;i&gt;real&lt;/i&gt; pop artist...he doesn&#039;t acknowledge his referents.&quot;

And you really don&#039;t see anything weird in how this incident of Nazi or whatever imagery &lt;i&gt;just happened&lt;/i&gt; to be in some work he did for WALMART? Doy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Pop artists acknowledge their referents.</i></p>
<p>Is that so? Are they required to publicize this acknowledgement lest they be thought illegitimate? &#8220;But you see, he&#8217;s not a <i>real</i> pop artist&#8230;he doesn&#8217;t acknowledge his referents.&#8221;</p>
<p>And you really don&#8217;t see anything weird in how this incident of Nazi or whatever imagery <i>just happened</i> to be in some work he did for WALMART? Doy.</p>
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		<title>By: Cranky Old Mission Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cranky Old Mission Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 21:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really? Andy Warhol included a copyright notice from Campbell&#039;s Soup on his silkscreens on canvas? Do show me that!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? Andy Warhol included a copyright notice from Campbell&#8217;s Soup on his silkscreens on canvas? Do show me that!</p>
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		<title>By: Olu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pop artists acknowledge their referents. Fairey never does until he is pilloried in the press. He isn&#039;t commenting on them, he is stealing them.

And there is not insubstantial evidence that he doesn&#039;t even know the history of the pieces he&#039;s stealing.  Causing him to do things like sell a Nazi-tainted image via T-shirts at Walmart and then say he had no idea the underlying image was offensive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pop artists acknowledge their referents. Fairey never does until he is pilloried in the press. He isn&#8217;t commenting on them, he is stealing them.</p>
<p>And there is not insubstantial evidence that he doesn&#8217;t even know the history of the pieces he&#8217;s stealing.  Causing him to do things like sell a Nazi-tainted image via T-shirts at Walmart and then say he had no idea the underlying image was offensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He literally took other people&#039;s posters, put his logo on them, and then sold those posters for money. If that&#039;s not plagiarism, what is?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He literally took other people&#8217;s posters, put his logo on them, and then sold those posters for money. If that&#8217;s not plagiarism, what is?</p>
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		<title>By: scum</title>
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		<dc:creator>scum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 19:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Never liked Husker Don&#039;t, but I do have some of the old Giant shirts the thief did before WWE threatened him with a lawsuit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never liked Husker Don&#8217;t, but I do have some of the old Giant shirts the thief did before WWE threatened him with a lawsuit.</p>
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		<title>By: why</title>
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		<dc:creator>why</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t give a crap about Fairey - but if I win tickets, I promise to take rotten eggs...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t give a crap about Fairey &#8211; but if I win tickets, I promise to take rotten eggs&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eric P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I went to hear Bob Mould read his new book at the Booksmith in the Haight. When he signed my book, I mentioned I had seen Husker Du at University of Washington in 1986. Bob said that Kurt Cobain was also there in the crowd.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to hear Bob Mould read his new book at the Booksmith in the Haight. When he signed my book, I mentioned I had seen Husker Du at University of Washington in 1986. Bob said that Kurt Cobain was also there in the crowd.</p>
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		<title>By: You become what you hate...</title>
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		<dc:creator>You become what you hate...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just ask Fuct, a Fairey victim.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just ask Fuct, a Fairey victim.</p>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 04:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[t.hanks:  You said it nicer than I was going to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>t.hanks:  You said it nicer than I was going to.</p>
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		<title>By: becca</title>
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		<dc:creator>becca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 02:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[agreed with the remarks above relating to shepard fairey. i wrote an essay about year and a half back about his &quot;issues&quot; with ownership (plagiarizing first and foremost, but then going on and copywriting the pilfered images) if anyone wants any more sources.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agreed with the remarks above relating to shepard fairey. i wrote an essay about year and a half back about his &#8220;issues&#8221; with ownership (plagiarizing first and foremost, but then going on and copywriting the pilfered images) if anyone wants any more sources.</p>
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		<title>By: t.hanks</title>
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		<dc:creator>t.hanks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 02:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[if you think Fairey&#039;s use of famous propaganda art and iconic symbols in his work is an act of plag(i)arism, as if he is trying to pass off those iconic images as his own, then you probably wouldn&#039;t have much to gain from hearing a pop artist speak.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you think Fairey&#8217;s use of famous propaganda art and iconic symbols in his work is an act of plag(i)arism, as if he is trying to pass off those iconic images as his own, then you probably wouldn&#8217;t have much to gain from hearing a pop artist speak.</p>
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