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	<title>Comments on: Crosstown Bikeways plan calls for big green bike lanes running straight up the middle of Valencia Street</title>
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		<title>By: jrg</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2011/11/07/crosstown-bikeways-plan-calls-for-big-green-bike-lanes-running-straight-up-the-middle-of-valencia-street/#comment-47342</link>
		<dc:creator>jrg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 00:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Better idea:  put the cars underground...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better idea:  put the cars underground&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jrg</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2011/11/07/crosstown-bikeways-plan-calls-for-big-green-bike-lanes-running-straight-up-the-middle-of-valencia-street/#comment-47341</link>
		<dc:creator>jrg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 00:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, the sidewalks have never been narrower....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the sidewalks have never been narrower&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: illuminaut</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2011/11/07/crosstown-bikeways-plan-calls-for-big-green-bike-lanes-running-straight-up-the-middle-of-valencia-street/#comment-42471</link>
		<dc:creator>illuminaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everybody knows Valencia will eventually turn into a pedestrian strip mall with Gucci and Burberry stores anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody knows Valencia will eventually turn into a pedestrian strip mall with Gucci and Burberry stores anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: smushmoth</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2011/11/07/crosstown-bikeways-plan-calls-for-big-green-bike-lanes-running-straight-up-the-middle-of-valencia-street/#comment-42347</link>
		<dc:creator>smushmoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 21:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know the single intersection at Fell and Masonic that was considered so dangerous that they have a special light just to make the left?  Well you will have that every single block (except needed for the right turn instead of the left), as well as collision points at driveways, you know because people live on Valencia street and have driveways already.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know the single intersection at Fell and Masonic that was considered so dangerous that they have a special light just to make the left?  Well you will have that every single block (except needed for the right turn instead of the left), as well as collision points at driveways, you know because people live on Valencia street and have driveways already.</p>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2011/11/07/crosstown-bikeways-plan-calls-for-big-green-bike-lanes-running-straight-up-the-middle-of-valencia-street/#comment-42289</link>
		<dc:creator>Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 00:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Additional crazytalk.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Additional crazytalk.</p>
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		<title>By: rod</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2011/11/07/crosstown-bikeways-plan-calls-for-big-green-bike-lanes-running-straight-up-the-middle-of-valencia-street/#comment-42288</link>
		<dc:creator>rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 00:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[aside from the fact that it&#039;s foolish and insensitive to call people &#039;retards&#039;, you are calling most of the regular cyclists in this area &#039;retards&#039; because you don&#039;t understand how to get around on a bicycle. not every route has bike-friendly streets. people take S Van Ness for the same reasons cars do: it&#039;s faster. most of those people you see are probably regular commuters trying to get to work or school on time. all that aside, one could make a very strong argument that taking a lane on South Van Ness is safer than riding in a bike lane on Folsom or Harrison.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aside from the fact that it&#8217;s foolish and insensitive to call people &#8216;retards&#8217;, you are calling most of the regular cyclists in this area &#8216;retards&#8217; because you don&#8217;t understand how to get around on a bicycle. not every route has bike-friendly streets. people take S Van Ness for the same reasons cars do: it&#8217;s faster. most of those people you see are probably regular commuters trying to get to work or school on time. all that aside, one could make a very strong argument that taking a lane on South Van Ness is safer than riding in a bike lane on Folsom or Harrison.</p>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2011/11/07/crosstown-bikeways-plan-calls-for-big-green-bike-lanes-running-straight-up-the-middle-of-valencia-street/#comment-42275</link>
		<dc:creator>Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 00:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All of the above.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of the above.</p>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2011/11/07/crosstown-bikeways-plan-calls-for-big-green-bike-lanes-running-straight-up-the-middle-of-valencia-street/#comment-42272</link>
		<dc:creator>Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 00:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Crazytalk.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crazytalk.</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2011/11/07/crosstown-bikeways-plan-calls-for-big-green-bike-lanes-running-straight-up-the-middle-of-valencia-street/#comment-42256</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 23:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You want more drivers? Doesn&#039;t the commute suck already? I&#039;d rather see a $15 gas tax.. then I could drive to work past all the bikers in the morning with no real traffic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want more drivers? Doesn&#8217;t the commute suck already? I&#8217;d rather see a $15 gas tax.. then I could drive to work past all the bikers in the morning with no real traffic.</p>
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		<title>By: rod</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2011/11/07/crosstown-bikeways-plan-calls-for-big-green-bike-lanes-running-straight-up-the-middle-of-valencia-street/#comment-42245</link>
		<dc:creator>rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 22:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[do you regularly ride a bike in this neighborhood or is this more &#039;common sense&#039;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do you regularly ride a bike in this neighborhood or is this more &#8216;common sense&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: rod</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2011/11/07/crosstown-bikeways-plan-calls-for-big-green-bike-lanes-running-straight-up-the-middle-of-valencia-street/#comment-42244</link>
		<dc:creator>rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 22:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well then your common sense is severely lacking. when there is no bike lane, riding in the center of the right lane is almost always the safest way to ride.


http://www.commutebybike.com/2008/03/18/top-5-reasons-to-claim-the-lane-and-why-its-safer/

http://cyclingsavvy.org/hows-my-driving/

http://www.bikexprt.com/streetsmarts/usa/chapter2a.htm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well then your common sense is severely lacking. when there is no bike lane, riding in the center of the right lane is almost always the safest way to ride.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.commutebybike.com/2008/03/18/top-5-reasons-to-claim-the-lane-and-why-its-safer/" rel="nofollow">http://www.commutebybike.com/2008/03/18/top-5-reasons-to-claim-the-lane-and-why-its-safer/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://cyclingsavvy.org/hows-my-driving/" rel="nofollow">http://cyclingsavvy.org/hows-my-driving/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.bikexprt.com/streetsmarts/usa/chapter2a.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.bikexprt.com/streetsmarts/usa/chapter2a.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2011/11/07/crosstown-bikeways-plan-calls-for-big-green-bike-lanes-running-straight-up-the-middle-of-valencia-street/#comment-42242</link>
		<dc:creator>Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 21:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yup, that is exactly what I was suggesting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, that is exactly what I was suggesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2011/11/07/crosstown-bikeways-plan-calls-for-big-green-bike-lanes-running-straight-up-the-middle-of-valencia-street/#comment-42241</link>
		<dc:creator>Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 21:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You mean besides common sense?  I guess mostly just my own lyin&#039; eyes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean besides common sense?  I guess mostly just my own lyin&#8217; eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2011/11/07/crosstown-bikeways-plan-calls-for-big-green-bike-lanes-running-straight-up-the-middle-of-valencia-street/#comment-42240</link>
		<dc:creator>Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 21:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you&#039;ve mistaken me for some sort of anti-bike person.  On the contrary, i just think you have to be the aforementioned retard to ride on SVan Ness instead of Folsom or one of the other roads where you&#039;re less likely to get creamed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;ve mistaken me for some sort of anti-bike person.  On the contrary, i just think you have to be the aforementioned retard to ride on SVan Ness instead of Folsom or one of the other roads where you&#8217;re less likely to get creamed.</p>
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		<title>By: rod</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2011/11/07/crosstown-bikeways-plan-calls-for-big-green-bike-lanes-running-straight-up-the-middle-of-valencia-street/#comment-42238</link>
		<dc:creator>rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 21:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[taxpaying citizens with a right to use public roads?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>taxpaying citizens with a right to use public roads?</p>
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