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	<title>Comments on: Shit Baristas (at Four Barrel) say</title>
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		<title>By: Web design and development</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/01/24/shit-baristas-at-four-barrel-say/#comment-54124</link>
		<dc:creator>Web design and development</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 20:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heya i am for the first time here. I came across this board and I to find It really helpful &amp; it helped 
me out much. I hope to provide one thing back and help others like you aided me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heya i am for the first time here. I came across this board and I to find It really helpful &amp; it helped<br />
me out much. I hope to provide one thing back and help others like you aided me.</p>
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		<title>By: wrybread</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/01/24/shit-baristas-at-four-barrel-say/#comment-47914</link>
		<dc:creator>wrybread</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 09:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have the Silva with the PID, and a $400 grinder, and I get somewhat decent coffee if I get just the right roast... for about 5 days. Then pretty quickly the coffee really doesn&#039;t work in the Silva anymore. My 2 ounce shots go through too quickly and its over.

My advice for anyone wanting to learning home espresso making: don&#039;t do it. You&#039;ll spend a fuck ton of money ($500 hardly gets you started), and will make at least one sink shot (a shot you throw in the sink) for every decent shot. And if you spend less than the minimum $1k startup costs, every single piece of equipment you buy that first round will be replaced by something better once you learn. So you&#039;ll think you&#039;re saving money but you&#039;re just wasting more.

And then you&#039;ll go to a place like 4 Barrel and realize you still have no clue what you&#039;re doing.

And then you&#039;ll watch someone pull an espresso wit horrible technique (wrong tamp pressure, over extracted) and it&#039;ll *still* taste 20x better than what you make with all your fussing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the Silva with the PID, and a $400 grinder, and I get somewhat decent coffee if I get just the right roast&#8230; for about 5 days. Then pretty quickly the coffee really doesn&#8217;t work in the Silva anymore. My 2 ounce shots go through too quickly and its over.</p>
<p>My advice for anyone wanting to learning home espresso making: don&#8217;t do it. You&#8217;ll spend a fuck ton of money ($500 hardly gets you started), and will make at least one sink shot (a shot you throw in the sink) for every decent shot. And if you spend less than the minimum $1k startup costs, every single piece of equipment you buy that first round will be replaced by something better once you learn. So you&#8217;ll think you&#8217;re saving money but you&#8217;re just wasting more.</p>
<p>And then you&#8217;ll go to a place like 4 Barrel and realize you still have no clue what you&#8217;re doing.</p>
<p>And then you&#8217;ll watch someone pull an espresso wit horrible technique (wrong tamp pressure, over extracted) and it&#8217;ll *still* taste 20x better than what you make with all your fussing.</p>
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		<title>By: does it?</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/01/24/shit-baristas-at-four-barrel-say/#comment-46829</link>
		<dc:creator>does it?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lols @ Joy Division]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lols @ Joy Division</p>
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		<title>By: Coco</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/01/24/shit-baristas-at-four-barrel-say/#comment-46744</link>
		<dc:creator>Coco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 19:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I use this Krups machine and it produces pretty amazing foam. http://www.amazon.com/Krups-XL2000-Milk-Frother/dp/B004WGQ9U8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1327520501&amp;sr=8-2]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use this Krups machine and it produces pretty amazing foam. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Krups-XL2000-Milk-Frother/dp/B004WGQ9U8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1327520501&#038;sr=8-2" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Krups-XL2000-Milk-Frother/dp/B004WGQ9U8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1327520501&#038;sr=8-2</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lindsey</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/01/24/shit-baristas-at-four-barrel-say/#comment-46729</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 18:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[put a bird on it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>put a bird on it!</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/01/24/shit-baristas-at-four-barrel-say/#comment-46728</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[+1]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1</p>
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		<title>By: kringle</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/01/24/shit-baristas-at-four-barrel-say/#comment-46724</link>
		<dc:creator>kringle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 06:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stick a straw in some hot milk and blow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stick a straw in some hot milk and blow.</p>
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		<title>By: scum</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/01/24/shit-baristas-at-four-barrel-say/#comment-46723</link>
		<dc:creator>scum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 05:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I  prefer tea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  prefer tea.</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/01/24/shit-baristas-at-four-barrel-say/#comment-46722</link>
		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 05:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what&#039;s this you say? the niners lost?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what&#8217;s this you say? the niners lost?</p>
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		<title>By: Think_for_Me</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/01/24/shit-baristas-at-four-barrel-say/#comment-46718</link>
		<dc:creator>Think_for_Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 04:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope there is a great war, and you all get drafted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope there is a great war, and you all get drafted.</p>
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		<title>By: MrEricSir</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/01/24/shit-baristas-at-four-barrel-say/#comment-46717</link>
		<dc:creator>MrEricSir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 03:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ugh, no way.  The pressurized portafilter is a joke.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh, no way.  The pressurized portafilter is a joke.</p>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/01/24/shit-baristas-at-four-barrel-say/#comment-46713</link>
		<dc:creator>Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 02:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[File under First World Problems.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>File under First World Problems.</p>
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		<title>By: MrEricSir</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/01/24/shit-baristas-at-four-barrel-say/#comment-46711</link>
		<dc:creator>MrEricSir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 02:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you added a PID?  It&#039;s totally worth it, not particularly difficult either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you added a PID?  It&#8217;s totally worth it, not particularly difficult either.</p>
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		<title>By: MrEricSir</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/01/24/shit-baristas-at-four-barrel-say/#comment-46710</link>
		<dc:creator>MrEricSir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 02:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They haven&#039;t started making these yet, so that won&#039;t do you much good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They haven&#8217;t started making these yet, so that won&#8217;t do you much good.</p>
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		<title>By: Some Jerk</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/01/24/shit-baristas-at-four-barrel-say/#comment-46709</link>
		<dc:creator>Some Jerk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 01:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is this an audition tape for Portlandia?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this an audition tape for Portlandia?</p>
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