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	<title>Comments on: Black Bloc-looking, possibly Occupy-related marchers ransack Valencia Street, wrecking storefronts and luxury cars</title>
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		<title>By: my website</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/04/30/black-bloc-looking-possibly-occupy-related-marchers-ransack-valencia-street-wrecking-storefronts-and-luxury-cars/#comment-86295</link>
		<dc:creator>my website</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Sep 2013 22:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And it is usually to do so by presuming far too much knowledge, that will put far excessive confidence within our direct 
apprehension of reality &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.af3f3fswee2.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my website&lt;/a&gt; they need to realize that plastic money 
doesn&#039;t fit in with us, but that we&#039;ve to spend a company to use it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it is usually to do so by presuming far too much knowledge, that will put far excessive confidence within our direct<br />
apprehension of reality <a href="http://www.af3f3fswee2.com" rel="nofollow">my website</a> they need to realize that plastic money<br />
doesn&#8217;t fit in with us, but that we&#8217;ve to spend a company to use it.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon Foonman</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/04/30/black-bloc-looking-possibly-occupy-related-marchers-ransack-valencia-street-wrecking-storefronts-and-luxury-cars/#comment-63564</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon Foonman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 05:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[stop them with a 2x4 upside their head?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stop them with a 2&#215;4 upside their head?</p>
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		<title>By: Leon Foonman</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/04/30/black-bloc-looking-possibly-occupy-related-marchers-ransack-valencia-street-wrecking-storefronts-and-luxury-cars/#comment-63563</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon Foonman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 05:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If they were for real they&#039;d go back to Fresno, Iowa, Ohio and all the other lame-ass places they come from. 
Maybe they&#039;ll understand the language of &quot;foot up ass&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they were for real they&#8217;d go back to Fresno, Iowa, Ohio and all the other lame-ass places they come from.<br />
Maybe they&#8217;ll understand the language of &#8220;foot up ass&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Leon Foonman</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/04/30/black-bloc-looking-possibly-occupy-related-marchers-ransack-valencia-street-wrecking-storefronts-and-luxury-cars/#comment-63562</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon Foonman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 05:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen.
These trust-a-farian MFs need to get the F out of our town before the locals break out the pitchforks and drive them in to the bay.
Losers!
LF]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen.<br />
These trust-a-farian MFs need to get the F out of our town before the locals break out the pitchforks and drive them in to the bay.<br />
Losers!<br />
LF</p>
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		<title>By: No Way</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/04/30/black-bloc-looking-possibly-occupy-related-marchers-ransack-valencia-street-wrecking-storefronts-and-luxury-cars/#comment-53343</link>
		<dc:creator>No Way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 00:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and this is NOT occupy-related.  Now go back to listening to your buddy Rush Limbaugh and stop posting disinformation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and this is NOT occupy-related.  Now go back to listening to your buddy Rush Limbaugh and stop posting disinformation.</p>
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		<title>By: No Way</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 02:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Notice how the badge-and-gun-wearing thugs are all dressed in black, just like Nazi stormtroopers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notice how the badge-and-gun-wearing thugs are all dressed in black, just like Nazi stormtroopers.</p>
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		<title>By: GG</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/04/30/black-bloc-looking-possibly-occupy-related-marchers-ransack-valencia-street-wrecking-storefronts-and-luxury-cars/#comment-53119</link>
		<dc:creator>GG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 16:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Go do some reading on Katko v. Briney and then come back and defend that position again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go do some reading on Katko v. Briney and then come back and defend that position again.</p>
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		<title>By: GG</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/04/30/black-bloc-looking-possibly-occupy-related-marchers-ransack-valencia-street-wrecking-storefronts-and-luxury-cars/#comment-53116</link>
		<dc:creator>GG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 16:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By electing effective, non-anonymous people to lead the organization and help persuade outliers who claim membership into constructive rather than destructive action; By encouraging those leaders to engage local media and elected officials and offering to help track down the perpetrators; By taking internal action to reinforce the organization&#039;s stated principles of non-violence; By eschewing inflammatory rhetoric and encouraging peaceful dialogue... I&#039;m sure people smarter than me could come up with many more suggestions. This isn&#039;t rocket science.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By electing effective, non-anonymous people to lead the organization and help persuade outliers who claim membership into constructive rather than destructive action; By encouraging those leaders to engage local media and elected officials and offering to help track down the perpetrators; By taking internal action to reinforce the organization&#8217;s stated principles of non-violence; By eschewing inflammatory rhetoric and encouraging peaceful dialogue&#8230; I&#8217;m sure people smarter than me could come up with many more suggestions. This isn&#8217;t rocket science.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 14:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welcome to the new Mission. 

One of the lessons people learn as they mature is that you can&#039;t have it both ways. 

&quot;Like why would anyone want to scratch my car and trash my favorite Valencia St. bistro? I&#039;M not a yuppie, I&#039;m cool!&quot;

I don&#039;t support vandalism or silly demonstrations at all. It&#039;s surprising (or not) that these people would choose the Mission as the target of their anti-yuppie rage. 15 years ago the Mission would have been the last neighborhood that wannabe anarchists targeted. 

Neighborhoods change.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the new Mission. </p>
<p>One of the lessons people learn as they mature is that you can&#8217;t have it both ways. </p>
<p>&#8220;Like why would anyone want to scratch my car and trash my favorite Valencia St. bistro? I&#8217;M not a yuppie, I&#8217;m cool!&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t support vandalism or silly demonstrations at all. It&#8217;s surprising (or not) that these people would choose the Mission as the target of their anti-yuppie rage. 15 years ago the Mission would have been the last neighborhood that wannabe anarchists targeted. </p>
<p>Neighborhoods change.</p>
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		<title>By: crouching eagle</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/04/30/black-bloc-looking-possibly-occupy-related-marchers-ransack-valencia-street-wrecking-storefronts-and-luxury-cars/#comment-53044</link>
		<dc:creator>crouching eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 02:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Occupy SF&#039;s declaration explicitly outlines the principle of nonviolence. 

http://occupysf.org/declaration/

Just as we can&#039;t stop people or dogs from peeing &amp; pooping in the mission or anywhere, how on earth can we expect Occupy to stop a few egoistic, self-centered, attention seeking spoiled brags from vandalizing things base on their own unique political/tactical reasoning?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Occupy SF&#8217;s declaration explicitly outlines the principle of nonviolence. </p>
<p><a href="http://occupysf.org/declaration/" rel="nofollow">http://occupysf.org/declaration/</a></p>
<p>Just as we can&#8217;t stop people or dogs from peeing &amp; pooping in the mission or anywhere, how on earth can we expect Occupy to stop a few egoistic, self-centered, attention seeking spoiled brags from vandalizing things base on their own unique political/tactical reasoning?</p>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 00:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Blah blah blah.  Whatever you say, Internet ToughGuy(tm).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blah blah blah.  Whatever you say, Internet ToughGuy(tm).</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 23:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Firstly, if a stamped-out consumer object is your pride and joy, then you aren&#039;t very creative. If your art, family, community, etc is your pride and joy, then i have more respect for you.

Secondly, as a sweeping generalization, rich folks don&#039;t get rich by giving their money away, or even sharing their wealth. As such, the chance of this Aston Martin owner sharing his financial success with his community is pretty low. Of course there are exceptions, but few of them. This also makes me respect the owner less.

Thirdly, there is a long history of wealthy people taking advantage of those socially and economically less well off. When this person earns money, it comes from somewhere. They don&#039;t generate this wealth from thin air, they are taking it, usually through complicated routes, from other people. Money circulates. The people this money came from may not have had any choice in making this Aston Martin owner rich (think medical insurance, pork-barrel taxes, private water, food monopolies). There are systems in which people cannot avoid making the rich richer. Should i applaud this?  

While these are all assumptions (what more can we make knowing nothing about this person, other than is directly evident from the picture), you too are making assumptions. The most important of which is that this person believed in the american dream, tried hard, was successful, and EARNED their money. There are plenty of rich kids who have never worked a day in their lives. There are plenty of rich folks who have broken laws, and gravely mistreated others for their wealth. 

Rather than spend this $200,000 on something only yourself can enjoy, how about spend it on a school in your neighborhood, your favorite park, or a donation to a responsible environmental group.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, if a stamped-out consumer object is your pride and joy, then you aren&#8217;t very creative. If your art, family, community, etc is your pride and joy, then i have more respect for you.</p>
<p>Secondly, as a sweeping generalization, rich folks don&#8217;t get rich by giving their money away, or even sharing their wealth. As such, the chance of this Aston Martin owner sharing his financial success with his community is pretty low. Of course there are exceptions, but few of them. This also makes me respect the owner less.</p>
<p>Thirdly, there is a long history of wealthy people taking advantage of those socially and economically less well off. When this person earns money, it comes from somewhere. They don&#8217;t generate this wealth from thin air, they are taking it, usually through complicated routes, from other people. Money circulates. The people this money came from may not have had any choice in making this Aston Martin owner rich (think medical insurance, pork-barrel taxes, private water, food monopolies). There are systems in which people cannot avoid making the rich richer. Should i applaud this?  </p>
<p>While these are all assumptions (what more can we make knowing nothing about this person, other than is directly evident from the picture), you too are making assumptions. The most important of which is that this person believed in the american dream, tried hard, was successful, and EARNED their money. There are plenty of rich kids who have never worked a day in their lives. There are plenty of rich folks who have broken laws, and gravely mistreated others for their wealth. </p>
<p>Rather than spend this $200,000 on something only yourself can enjoy, how about spend it on a school in your neighborhood, your favorite park, or a donation to a responsible environmental group.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 23:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or the other reader who said many members of the Gay Men&#039;s Chorus who was practicing had their cars vandalized.  

Yeah, smashing art galleries and vandalizing musicians&#039; cars really sends a message. . . that you are a complete and total douchebag and we should bring back pillories just for you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or the other reader who said many members of the Gay Men&#8217;s Chorus who was practicing had their cars vandalized.  </p>
<p>Yeah, smashing art galleries and vandalizing musicians&#8217; cars really sends a message. . . that you are a complete and total douchebag and we should bring back pillories just for you.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 23:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too bad that is not James Bond&#039;s Aston Martin.  The street would be covered with the charred bodies of the vandals.  

In South Africa, it is legal to install anti-theft/carjacking systems that will burn anyone who approaches the car to a crisp.  I wonder if it is time to start legalizing driver&#039;s side flame throwers here?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad that is not James Bond&#8217;s Aston Martin.  The street would be covered with the charred bodies of the vandals.  </p>
<p>In South Africa, it is legal to install anti-theft/carjacking systems that will burn anyone who approaches the car to a crisp.  I wonder if it is time to start legalizing driver&#8217;s side flame throwers here?</p>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 22:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am A-OK with rich people&#039;s stuff getting wrecked.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am A-OK with rich people&#8217;s stuff getting wrecked.</p>
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