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		<title>By: M. Stanton</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/05/30/its-hard-out-there-for-a-composer/#comment-68311</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Stanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 21:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The folks urging Christopher to compose within acceptable commercial realms don&#039;t realize what a disservice that does to the diversity of music out there. I have heard some of his music, years ago, and it sticks with me. And these folks imagining their conversations with a &quot;stuck up&quot; cab driver should think how cool it is to run into a cab driver who can tell you something about Anton Webern. What the hell is wrong with that anyway? Quit trying to stuff everybody into a box.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The folks urging Christopher to compose within acceptable commercial realms don&#8217;t realize what a disservice that does to the diversity of music out there. I have heard some of his music, years ago, and it sticks with me. And these folks imagining their conversations with a &#8220;stuck up&#8221; cab driver should think how cool it is to run into a cab driver who can tell you something about Anton Webern. What the hell is wrong with that anyway? Quit trying to stuff everybody into a box.</p>
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		<title>By: bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/05/30/its-hard-out-there-for-a-composer/#comment-64454</link>
		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2012 02:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hey there chris. 
im a 18yo composer/ pianist who writes classical ( traditional ) romantic and contemporary music :D.
i liked the film a lot. i just want to ask you:
you like to write contemporary music right ?

why dont you mix your music with different classical styles ? thats what i do :) and it works very very wel. im invited to greece next year. im from the netherlands.

wishes you al the best,

Bryan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey there chris.<br />
im a 18yo composer/ pianist who writes classical ( traditional ) romantic and contemporary music <img src='http://www.missionmission.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> .<br />
i liked the film a lot. i just want to ask you:<br />
you like to write contemporary music right ?</p>
<p>why dont you mix your music with different classical styles ? thats what i do <img src='http://www.missionmission.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  and it works very very wel. im invited to greece next year. im from the netherlands.</p>
<p>wishes you al the best,</p>
<p>Bryan</p>
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		<title>By: bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/05/30/its-hard-out-there-for-a-composer/#comment-64453</link>
		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2012 02:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dude ,fuck off.  i bet u got less talent then shit. just leave the guy allone. i totaly understand what he mains and im just an 18yo composer from the netherlands ;).

even if you do use the computer ( notation programmes ) its stil fukin hard to get ur music out there.ur only a composer if you can composer without pc , so in your head and writing it down on paper. if not ? ur not accomplished composer. i like to cal these people ( most of them ) song writers.
anyways none of my concerns. i am doing well:) going to perform my new pianoconcerto in greece next year ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dude ,fuck off.  i bet u got less talent then shit. just leave the guy allone. i totaly understand what he mains and im just an 18yo composer from the netherlands <img src='http://www.missionmission.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>even if you do use the computer ( notation programmes ) its stil fukin hard to get ur music out there.ur only a composer if you can composer without pc , so in your head and writing it down on paper. if not ? ur not accomplished composer. i like to cal these people ( most of them ) song writers.<br />
anyways none of my concerns. i am doing well:) going to perform my new pianoconcerto in greece next year <img src='http://www.missionmission.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pseudonym</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/05/30/its-hard-out-there-for-a-composer/#comment-56248</link>
		<dc:creator>Pseudonym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 06:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, many people comment online without revealing their identity.  Maybe if you weren&#039;t so busy demonizing technology this might be more obvious?  I have not missed the point, but rather you are refusing to accept your own reality...  A full-time cab driver who compares himself to Julius Caesar?  When you&#039;re done mentally masturbating in here, then you might be capable of discussing shortcomings, especially your own.  Especially since you denounce two rather accomplished composers as not even being composers?  What a laugh!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, many people comment online without revealing their identity.  Maybe if you weren&#8217;t so busy demonizing technology this might be more obvious?  I have not missed the point, but rather you are refusing to accept your own reality&#8230;  A full-time cab driver who compares himself to Julius Caesar?  When you&#8217;re done mentally masturbating in here, then you might be capable of discussing shortcomings, especially your own.  Especially since you denounce two rather accomplished composers as not even being composers?  What a laugh!</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Fulkerson</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/05/30/its-hard-out-there-for-a-composer/#comment-56247</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Fulkerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, about my supposed &quot;massive inferiority complex,&quot; I can thank you for your willful misunderstanding (apparently, modesty is wasted on you), which at least contradicts some of the accusations of other types that people feel called upon to make.  Fortunately, the sum total of the abuse only reinforces the undesirable reality the video describes.

Some people are abusive and say I&#039;m arrogant; others are abusive and say I have a massive inferiority complex - the blatant contradiction, and the commonality of abuse, only confirm the harsh side of what I&#039;m saying.  

But I have said for years that it is better to make a realistic appraisal of your situation and go from there, than live in illusion.  Even Caesar had setbacks, and he didn&#039;t get out of the hole by being unrealistic about them.  It is I believe a very positive thing indeed to face a bad culture with a creative reply.  Many of the greatest artists of all time and every stripe took a dim view of their own time, as I do of ours.

I have met people in my cab who even have sen the video before meeting me, and liked it very much.  Cab Industry people, and Classical music professionals willing to be themselves and not pseudonyms, have so far all been very congratulatory and positive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, about my supposed &#8220;massive inferiority complex,&#8221; I can thank you for your willful misunderstanding (apparently, modesty is wasted on you), which at least contradicts some of the accusations of other types that people feel called upon to make.  Fortunately, the sum total of the abuse only reinforces the undesirable reality the video describes.</p>
<p>Some people are abusive and say I&#8217;m arrogant; others are abusive and say I have a massive inferiority complex &#8211; the blatant contradiction, and the commonality of abuse, only confirm the harsh side of what I&#8217;m saying.  </p>
<p>But I have said for years that it is better to make a realistic appraisal of your situation and go from there, than live in illusion.  Even Caesar had setbacks, and he didn&#8217;t get out of the hole by being unrealistic about them.  It is I believe a very positive thing indeed to face a bad culture with a creative reply.  Many of the greatest artists of all time and every stripe took a dim view of their own time, as I do of ours.</p>
<p>I have met people in my cab who even have sen the video before meeting me, and liked it very much.  Cab Industry people, and Classical music professionals willing to be themselves and not pseudonyms, have so far all been very congratulatory and positive.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Fulkerson</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/05/30/its-hard-out-there-for-a-composer/#comment-56245</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Fulkerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This incident cannot have occured as the individual describes.  I do not make remarks like this.  I take solace from the fact that videos of my cab work are known to very many people and never has there been a suggestion to the effect this supposed passenger claims.  In 21 years of driving I have NEVER made EVEN ONE SINGLE SARCASTIC REMARK about a tip.  I do NOT assume a tip AT ANY TIME... it is one of the thing about my cab work of which I am most confident.  IF this person was my passenger, he remembers things according to his own mental confusion he has already admitted he suffered from.   This also does not jive with reality in that his tip would have been a good one - I would be least inclined to be &quot;a jackass&quot; when given a nice tip.  This report so fails to correspond with reality that I wonder whether it is made up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This incident cannot have occured as the individual describes.  I do not make remarks like this.  I take solace from the fact that videos of my cab work are known to very many people and never has there been a suggestion to the effect this supposed passenger claims.  In 21 years of driving I have NEVER made EVEN ONE SINGLE SARCASTIC REMARK about a tip.  I do NOT assume a tip AT ANY TIME&#8230; it is one of the thing about my cab work of which I am most confident.  IF this person was my passenger, he remembers things according to his own mental confusion he has already admitted he suffered from.   This also does not jive with reality in that his tip would have been a good one &#8211; I would be least inclined to be &#8220;a jackass&#8221; when given a nice tip.  This report so fails to correspond with reality that I wonder whether it is made up.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Fulkerson</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/05/30/its-hard-out-there-for-a-composer/#comment-56244</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Fulkerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen.  I do what I have to do.  There is sanctity in work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen.  I do what I have to do.  There is sanctity in work.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Fulkerson</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/05/30/its-hard-out-there-for-a-composer/#comment-56243</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Fulkerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you kindly!  It&#039;s really Kate Imbach&#039;s accomplishment - the narrative flow was one she made of remarks she edited.  Personally, I am pleased with it, and quite surprised to learn how well it&#039;s doing.

Oh also to the doubters, I suggest you read what William Kraft said about the video, he is a well-respected American composer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you kindly!  It&#8217;s really Kate Imbach&#8217;s accomplishment &#8211; the narrative flow was one she made of remarks she edited.  Personally, I am pleased with it, and quite surprised to learn how well it&#8217;s doing.</p>
<p>Oh also to the doubters, I suggest you read what William Kraft said about the video, he is a well-respected American composer.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Fulkerson</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/05/30/its-hard-out-there-for-a-composer/#comment-56242</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Fulkerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t drive that way.  You sound like one of those high maintenance passengers who will gripe for no reason.  Unless it was an unusually bad cab or bad traffic it is very unlikely I actually drove that way for more than a short time.  That would not prevent an unreasonable person such as yourself from complaining of course.  I have never, not once &quot;sworn it saves gas,&quot; and no one has ever told me such a line as the one you claim you spoke to me.  If there was such a conversation, it was not as you describe.  Remarks such as you claim you or I made are so unlike me I daresay you&#039;re lying.  You don&#039;t get a refund of the CD.

For the general, sane, public, I just point out how little surprised I am that some of these remarks are so surprisingly irrational and hostile... the hostility is completely in line with most of the video, from the first line Miss Imbach chose to use... apparently, if only I were willing to do what I don&#039;t want to do, and write for Hollywood (John Williams advised me AWAY from that career, saying &quot;I don&#039;t think Hollywood is the place for a serious composer&quot;) then I&#039;d have a career; if only I didn&#039;t have personality shortcomings, I&#039;d be a success; yadda yadda.  

I am living in the reality that you pretend doesn&#039;t exist, in which the SF Symphony has not on any of the four seasons I have studied done more than 2% repertoire by living Americans; those with the hostility are living in a bubble.  The hostile views are, in my opinion, left over from the Reagan and Bush years, during which the idea was developed that a person is wrong not to be successful in the terms that those monsters allowed - a time when some were teaching it takes &quot;courage to be rich&quot; but could not speak in proper English well enough even to say &quot;the Democratic Party&quot; but instead said &quot;the Democrat Party.&quot;  

One of the attributes of our society is cruelty to those whose description of circumstances challenges their own PC idea of how everything is all good and nice.  That was actually a movement in the Soviet Union, related to the topic I touched on at one point in the video.  The Soviets were smart enough to refuse to condone it.  

The video is getting a lot of views, very many more than anyone thought likely, and so far only this site, for some reason, has people who feel called upon to decry what I have said.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t drive that way.  You sound like one of those high maintenance passengers who will gripe for no reason.  Unless it was an unusually bad cab or bad traffic it is very unlikely I actually drove that way for more than a short time.  That would not prevent an unreasonable person such as yourself from complaining of course.  I have never, not once &#8220;sworn it saves gas,&#8221; and no one has ever told me such a line as the one you claim you spoke to me.  If there was such a conversation, it was not as you describe.  Remarks such as you claim you or I made are so unlike me I daresay you&#8217;re lying.  You don&#8217;t get a refund of the CD.</p>
<p>For the general, sane, public, I just point out how little surprised I am that some of these remarks are so surprisingly irrational and hostile&#8230; the hostility is completely in line with most of the video, from the first line Miss Imbach chose to use&#8230; apparently, if only I were willing to do what I don&#8217;t want to do, and write for Hollywood (John Williams advised me AWAY from that career, saying &#8220;I don&#8217;t think Hollywood is the place for a serious composer&#8221;) then I&#8217;d have a career; if only I didn&#8217;t have personality shortcomings, I&#8217;d be a success; yadda yadda.  </p>
<p>I am living in the reality that you pretend doesn&#8217;t exist, in which the SF Symphony has not on any of the four seasons I have studied done more than 2% repertoire by living Americans; those with the hostility are living in a bubble.  The hostile views are, in my opinion, left over from the Reagan and Bush years, during which the idea was developed that a person is wrong not to be successful in the terms that those monsters allowed &#8211; a time when some were teaching it takes &#8220;courage to be rich&#8221; but could not speak in proper English well enough even to say &#8220;the Democratic Party&#8221; but instead said &#8220;the Democrat Party.&#8221;  </p>
<p>One of the attributes of our society is cruelty to those whose description of circumstances challenges their own PC idea of how everything is all good and nice.  That was actually a movement in the Soviet Union, related to the topic I touched on at one point in the video.  The Soviets were smart enough to refuse to condone it.  </p>
<p>The video is getting a lot of views, very many more than anyone thought likely, and so far only this site, for some reason, has people who feel called upon to decry what I have said.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Fulkerson</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/05/30/its-hard-out-there-for-a-composer/#comment-56241</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Fulkerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 04:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you.  You&#039;re quite right to doubt the wisdom of getting a Ph.D.; I&#039;ve often said that if I&#039;d known I&#039;d have to drive a cab literally until I die I would have thought of something else after the M.A.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you.  You&#8217;re quite right to doubt the wisdom of getting a Ph.D.; I&#8217;ve often said that if I&#8217;d known I&#8217;d have to drive a cab literally until I die I would have thought of something else after the M.A.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Fulkerson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Fulkerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 04:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a far more amusing remark!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a far more amusing remark!</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Fulkerson</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/05/30/its-hard-out-there-for-a-composer/#comment-56239</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Fulkerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 04:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve Reich and Philip Glass are not composers.  It is too bad you think my attitude is defeatist, you are obviously going only on the edit you have seen and not bothered to look any further.   Miss Imbach was interested in the difficulties of being obscure.   Too bad you&#039;re so arrogant as to accuse another of arrogance instead of hearing the message.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Reich and Philip Glass are not composers.  It is too bad you think my attitude is defeatist, you are obviously going only on the edit you have seen and not bothered to look any further.   Miss Imbach was interested in the difficulties of being obscure.   Too bad you&#8217;re so arrogant as to accuse another of arrogance instead of hearing the message.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Fulkerson</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/05/30/its-hard-out-there-for-a-composer/#comment-56238</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Fulkerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 04:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Devoid of identity, you recommend an alternative I do not seek, and attempt a put-down because I happened to mention my pencils?  Hiding behind an pseudonym that does not prevent your own shortcomings from being seen, such as missing the point and merely attacking another.  And who mentioned elitism?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Devoid of identity, you recommend an alternative I do not seek, and attempt a put-down because I happened to mention my pencils?  Hiding behind an pseudonym that does not prevent your own shortcomings from being seen, such as missing the point and merely attacking another.  And who mentioned elitism?</p>
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		<title>By: MAC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MAC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 21:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been in his cab before. He spent the whole time making what he thought was charmingly self-deprecating jokes about being a cab driver, but really came across as a massive inferiority complex. I told him I worked for an online music service and it went downhill from there. Kept acting like he only drives a cab because he won&#039;t give in to popular culture. I told him to add on $3 to my credit card for $10 cab ride (it was late and we were drunk) and he shot back a sarcastic &quot;ooooh, big time music guy huh?&quot;. I said forget it, handed him a ten and got the hell out of there. What a jackass.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been in his cab before. He spent the whole time making what he thought was charmingly self-deprecating jokes about being a cab driver, but really came across as a massive inferiority complex. I told him I worked for an online music service and it went downhill from there. Kept acting like he only drives a cab because he won&#8217;t give in to popular culture. I told him to add on $3 to my credit card for $10 cab ride (it was late and we were drunk) and he shot back a sarcastic &#8220;ooooh, big time music guy huh?&#8221;. I said forget it, handed him a ten and got the hell out of there. What a jackass.</p>
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		<title>By: stencil</title>
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		<dc:creator>stencil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 18:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Charles Ives put food on the table through actuarial work.

The modern day composer refuses to die!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles Ives put food on the table through actuarial work.</p>
<p>The modern day composer refuses to die!</p>
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