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	<title>Comments on: How to properly transport your cat on a bicycle</title>
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		<title>By: LM</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/06/25/how-to-properly-transport-your-cat-on-a-bicycle/#comment-58427</link>
		<dc:creator>LM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 00:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I got my first-and-only cellphone ticket, the cop basically told me that if he sees a phone in your hand, he will give you a ticket. I told him I was using GPS, which is legal, and he said he had no way of knowing whether I was telling the truth, and that from his point of view, if it&#039;s in my hand I&#039;m using it illegally. He said I should get a dashboard holder, which I did, but...yeah. 

I took it court and the dude didn&#039;t show up, so I won by default, but I realize a lot of people don&#039;t have the schedule flexibility to go through the hassle of a court hearing.

It is possible to pull a data record of what you were doing on your phone, to document that you were doing something other than talking or texting. Taking photos while driving is legal as long as you are otherwise driving safely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I got my first-and-only cellphone ticket, the cop basically told me that if he sees a phone in your hand, he will give you a ticket. I told him I was using GPS, which is legal, and he said he had no way of knowing whether I was telling the truth, and that from his point of view, if it&#8217;s in my hand I&#8217;m using it illegally. He said I should get a dashboard holder, which I did, but&#8230;yeah. </p>
<p>I took it court and the dude didn&#8217;t show up, so I won by default, but I realize a lot of people don&#8217;t have the schedule flexibility to go through the hassle of a court hearing.</p>
<p>It is possible to pull a data record of what you were doing on your phone, to document that you were doing something other than talking or texting. Taking photos while driving is legal as long as you are otherwise driving safely.</p>
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		<title>By: MrEricSir</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/06/25/how-to-properly-transport-your-cat-on-a-bicycle/#comment-57295</link>
		<dc:creator>MrEricSir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2012 01:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s still legal to play Nintendo games while driving though, right?  Dr. Mario isn&#039;t going to play itself!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s still legal to play Nintendo games while driving though, right?  Dr. Mario isn&#8217;t going to play itself!</p>
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		<title>By: Slick</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/06/25/how-to-properly-transport-your-cat-on-a-bicycle/#comment-57277</link>
		<dc:creator>Slick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve seen that ruling, too...  Again, my point is that ruling applies to using a phone as a phone - for voice conversation or texting (the ruling was broadened a little bit for other things that are texting-like, such as email).  The ruling did not apply, however, to other uses of a phone or other devices in the car.

GPS, specifically, has been called out as being completely legal under the current law.  When I say it is a grey area, I mean that as far as I&#039;ve seen no court has ruled on the use of a camera at a stop light (or the camera function of a phone).

Apparently, there are lots of grey areas in this law.
http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2011/04/texting_driving_smartphone.php
http://www.fostercity.org/Services/safety/police/Celldriving.cfm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen that ruling, too&#8230;  Again, my point is that ruling applies to using a phone as a phone &#8211; for voice conversation or texting (the ruling was broadened a little bit for other things that are texting-like, such as email).  The ruling did not apply, however, to other uses of a phone or other devices in the car.</p>
<p>GPS, specifically, has been called out as being completely legal under the current law.  When I say it is a grey area, I mean that as far as I&#8217;ve seen no court has ruled on the use of a camera at a stop light (or the camera function of a phone).</p>
<p>Apparently, there are lots of grey areas in this law.<br />
<a href="http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2011/04/texting_driving_smartphone.php" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2011/04/texting_driving_smartphone.php</a><br />
<a href="http://www.fostercity.org/Services/safety/police/Celldriving.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.fostercity.org/Services/safety/police/Celldriving.cfm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/06/25/how-to-properly-transport-your-cat-on-a-bicycle/#comment-57249</link>
		<dc:creator>Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s good to know, GG, I had always assumed that I was safe to check messages, etc, when stopped at a red light.  In the future I&#039;ll limit it to when I&#039;m actually pulled over to the side.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s good to know, GG, I had always assumed that I was safe to check messages, etc, when stopped at a red light.  In the future I&#8217;ll limit it to when I&#8217;m actually pulled over to the side.</p>
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		<title>By: GG</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/06/25/how-to-properly-transport-your-cat-on-a-bicycle/#comment-57247</link>
		<dc:creator>GG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay... I don&#039;t want to encourage annoying nitpicking on Andrew or anyone else, but just as a public service announcement, it&#039;s actually not a grey area. There was a court ruling on this recently: http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Court-Ruling-California-Cell-Phone-Ban-Law-Driving-Red-Light-133887698.html?fullSite=y

It may be perfectly safe to take a photo while stopped at a light or stop sign (IMHO), but just be aware that you can get a pricey ticket for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay&#8230; I don&#8217;t want to encourage annoying nitpicking on Andrew or anyone else, but just as a public service announcement, it&#8217;s actually not a grey area. There was a court ruling on this recently: <a href="http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Court-Ruling-California-Cell-Phone-Ban-Law-Driving-Red-Light-133887698.html?fullSite=y" rel="nofollow">http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Court-Ruling-California-Cell-Phone-Ban-Law-Driving-Red-Light-133887698.html?fullSite=y</a></p>
<p>It may be perfectly safe to take a photo while stopped at a light or stop sign (IMHO), but just be aware that you can get a pricey ticket for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Slick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not necessarily...  The law is fairly specific about using phones as phones, but then it gets vague...

From the webs:
California Vehicle Code section23123.5 (b) states that it is illegal to &quot;write, send, or read a text-based communication&quot; means using an electronic wireless communications device to manually communicate with any person using a text-based communication, including, but not limited to, communications referred to as a text message, instant message or electronic mail.

It is not, however, illegal to use a GPS app on your phone or a specialized GPS device. I couldn&#039;t find specific references to using a camera (cameraphone or standalone).  The law itself doesn&#039;t seem to be specific on this one, so it would largely be up to the courts to decide.

I&#039;d say this is a grey area.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not necessarily&#8230;  The law is fairly specific about using phones as phones, but then it gets vague&#8230;</p>
<p>From the webs:<br />
California Vehicle Code section23123.5 (b) states that it is illegal to &#8220;write, send, or read a text-based communication&#8221; means using an electronic wireless communications device to manually communicate with any person using a text-based communication, including, but not limited to, communications referred to as a text message, instant message or electronic mail.</p>
<p>It is not, however, illegal to use a GPS app on your phone or a specialized GPS device. I couldn&#8217;t find specific references to using a camera (cameraphone or standalone).  The law itself doesn&#8217;t seem to be specific on this one, so it would largely be up to the courts to decide.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say this is a grey area.</p>
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		<title>By: scum</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/06/25/how-to-properly-transport-your-cat-on-a-bicycle/#comment-57234</link>
		<dc:creator>scum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 19:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stopped or not Andrew, still illegal in Ca.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stopped or not Andrew, still illegal in Ca.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Sarkarati</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/06/25/how-to-properly-transport-your-cat-on-a-bicycle/#comment-57228</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Sarkarati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[stopped at a stop sign smartass!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stopped at a stop sign smartass!</p>
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		<title>By: Soonerdiver</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/06/25/how-to-properly-transport-your-cat-on-a-bicycle/#comment-57224</link>
		<dc:creator>Soonerdiver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your mother should have left her &#039;flip phone&#039; in her purse and paid attention to her driving.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your mother should have left her &#8216;flip phone&#8217; in her purse and paid attention to her driving.</p>
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		<title>By: henry</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/06/25/how-to-properly-transport-your-cat-on-a-bicycle/#comment-57220</link>
		<dc:creator>henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 17:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not if I do first!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not if I do first!</p>
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		<title>By: GG</title>
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		<dc:creator>GG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m going to get a realistic-looking stuffed cat and strap it to my shoulders next time I go bike riding, just to freak people out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to get a realistic-looking stuffed cat and strap it to my shoulders next time I go bike riding, just to freak people out.</p>
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