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		<title>By: high quality backlinks</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/07/16/car-mows-down-a-rack-of-bikes-in-front-of-zeitgeist/#comment-81926</link>
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		<title>By: G.Lo</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/07/16/car-mows-down-a-rack-of-bikes-in-front-of-zeitgeist/#comment-59707</link>
		<dc:creator>G.Lo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 21:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good blog but one correction to your last sentence.  You can still sue a bicyclist or pedestrian...this is true.  You can also sue the owner of an animal that should be on a leash that runs out in front of your car.  You stated you won&#039;t be able to recover from an insurer...if that at fault party (bicyclist, pedestrian, pet owner) have Home Owners Insurance, it covers the liability of their home owner.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good blog but one correction to your last sentence.  You can still sue a bicyclist or pedestrian&#8230;this is true.  You can also sue the owner of an animal that should be on a leash that runs out in front of your car.  You stated you won&#8217;t be able to recover from an insurer&#8230;if that at fault party (bicyclist, pedestrian, pet owner) have Home Owners Insurance, it covers the liability of their home owner.</p>
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		<title>By: rico</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/07/16/car-mows-down-a-rack-of-bikes-in-front-of-zeitgeist/#comment-59361</link>
		<dc:creator>rico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 08:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Die hipster scum]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Die hipster scum</p>
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		<title>By: Village Idiot</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/07/16/car-mows-down-a-rack-of-bikes-in-front-of-zeitgeist/#comment-58554</link>
		<dc:creator>Village Idiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Darth</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/07/16/car-mows-down-a-rack-of-bikes-in-front-of-zeitgeist/#comment-58538</link>
		<dc:creator>Darth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nope, and I&#039;ll tell you why - cars are, in general, way more expensive than bikes and they cause way more damage when they hit something.  They also cause more serious accidents than bikes do.  Liability insurance was imposed on private (as opposed to commercial) motorized vehicle drivers because of the high rates of accidents coupled with the high amount of damage in the typical accident.  Even a fender bender can result in thousands of dollars in repairs and the state wanted to insure that individuals had the ability to pay for the damage they caused.  On the other hand, there&#039;s no evidence that damage caused by bicycles is anywhere near the level caused by cars in a typical year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, and I&#8217;ll tell you why &#8211; cars are, in general, way more expensive than bikes and they cause way more damage when they hit something.  They also cause more serious accidents than bikes do.  Liability insurance was imposed on private (as opposed to commercial) motorized vehicle drivers because of the high rates of accidents coupled with the high amount of damage in the typical accident.  Even a fender bender can result in thousands of dollars in repairs and the state wanted to insure that individuals had the ability to pay for the damage they caused.  On the other hand, there&#8217;s no evidence that damage caused by bicycles is anywhere near the level caused by cars in a typical year.</p>
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		<title>By: Julio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had a longer reply, but it was too long for blogger.  Here are the cliffs notes:

Nope, and I&#039;ll tell you why - cars are, in general, way more expensive than bikes and they cause way more damage when they hit something.  They also cause more serious accidents than bikes do.  Liability insurance was imposed on private (as opposed to commercial) motorized vehicle drivers because of the high rates of accidents coupled with the high amount of damage in the typical accident.  Even a fender bender can result in thousands of dollars in repairs and the state wanted to insure that individuals had the ability to pay for the damage they caused.  On the other hand, there&#039;s no evidence that damage caused by bicycles is anywhere near the level caused by cars in a typical year.

Additionally, some uninsured motorist policies will cover you getting hit on your bike and an uninsured bike hitting you, you just have to look at your policy.  Also - there is such a thing as bike insurance. Additionally, cars kill a fuckload of people every year and bikes do not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a longer reply, but it was too long for blogger.  Here are the cliffs notes:</p>
<p>Nope, and I&#8217;ll tell you why &#8211; cars are, in general, way more expensive than bikes and they cause way more damage when they hit something.  They also cause more serious accidents than bikes do.  Liability insurance was imposed on private (as opposed to commercial) motorized vehicle drivers because of the high rates of accidents coupled with the high amount of damage in the typical accident.  Even a fender bender can result in thousands of dollars in repairs and the state wanted to insure that individuals had the ability to pay for the damage they caused.  On the other hand, there&#8217;s no evidence that damage caused by bicycles is anywhere near the level caused by cars in a typical year.</p>
<p>Additionally, some uninsured motorist policies will cover you getting hit on your bike and an uninsured bike hitting you, you just have to look at your policy.  Also &#8211; there is such a thing as bike insurance. Additionally, cars kill a fuckload of people every year and bikes do not.</p>
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		<title>By: Julio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nope, and I&#039;ll tell you why - cars are, in general, way more expensive than bikes and they cause way more damage when they hit something.  They also cause more serious accidents than bikes do.  Liability insurance was imposed on private (as opposed to commercial) motorized vehicle drivers because of the high rates of accidents coupled with the high amount of damage in the typical accident.  Even a fender bender can result in thousands of dollars in repairs and the state wanted to insure that individuals had the ability to pay for the damage they caused.  On the other hand, there&#039;s no evidence that damage caused by bicycles is anywhere near the level caused by cars in a typical year.

Still, there are cases where a biker&#039;s uninsured motorist policy has paid for damages by hit and run drivers who were clearly shown to be at fault and I would guess that some auto policies will cover damage by a biker who is at fault and not carrying insurance for the accident.  Remember, mandatory insurance policies are based on public policy - how do we insure that the least amount of damage is done to the least amount of people?  Not, how do we insure that bikes have the same financial responsibilities as cars.  If bike accidents become more numerous or more dangerous/expensive then you&#039;ll see bills calling for bikers to carry liability insurance.

And finally, some traffic death statistics food for thought- in 2010, 2,715 people died from &quot;traffic fatalities.&quot;  Almost 1600 of those fatalities were people inside of the cars themselves.  Over half of those fatalities either involved a BAC of over .08 or speeding.  All of this means that in 2010, the fatality rate in CA for traffic deaths was 7.27 per 100,000 people (which is way better than it was 5 years before).  599 of those fatalities were pedestrians and 99 were bicyclists.

Pedestrians are much more likely to be killed by cars, but have fewer restrictions placed on them than bicycles because on their own, pedestrians are less dangerous than bicycles.  When a pedestrian crashes into something, the likelihood of damage is lower.  Still, sometimes a jogger breaks someone&#039;s hip, leg, etc. when they crash.  This doesn&#039;t mean that all joggers should have to carry liability insurance because this isn&#039;t how we decide insurance policy (based on extreme examples as opposed to the aggregate).  Additionally, drivers owe pedestrians in CA a &quot;duty of care&quot; whenever they&#039;re in the roadway.  This means a pedestrian can be jaywalking while hit and not be at fault if the driver breached this duty (what would a reasonable person have done in the same situation).

You can still sue a bicyclist (or a pedestrian) under tort law and recover, you just won&#039;t be able to recover from an insurer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, and I&#8217;ll tell you why &#8211; cars are, in general, way more expensive than bikes and they cause way more damage when they hit something.  They also cause more serious accidents than bikes do.  Liability insurance was imposed on private (as opposed to commercial) motorized vehicle drivers because of the high rates of accidents coupled with the high amount of damage in the typical accident.  Even a fender bender can result in thousands of dollars in repairs and the state wanted to insure that individuals had the ability to pay for the damage they caused.  On the other hand, there&#8217;s no evidence that damage caused by bicycles is anywhere near the level caused by cars in a typical year.</p>
<p>Still, there are cases where a biker&#8217;s uninsured motorist policy has paid for damages by hit and run drivers who were clearly shown to be at fault and I would guess that some auto policies will cover damage by a biker who is at fault and not carrying insurance for the accident.  Remember, mandatory insurance policies are based on public policy &#8211; how do we insure that the least amount of damage is done to the least amount of people?  Not, how do we insure that bikes have the same financial responsibilities as cars.  If bike accidents become more numerous or more dangerous/expensive then you&#8217;ll see bills calling for bikers to carry liability insurance.</p>
<p>And finally, some traffic death statistics food for thought- in 2010, 2,715 people died from &#8220;traffic fatalities.&#8221;  Almost 1600 of those fatalities were people inside of the cars themselves.  Over half of those fatalities either involved a BAC of over .08 or speeding.  All of this means that in 2010, the fatality rate in CA for traffic deaths was 7.27 per 100,000 people (which is way better than it was 5 years before).  599 of those fatalities were pedestrians and 99 were bicyclists.</p>
<p>Pedestrians are much more likely to be killed by cars, but have fewer restrictions placed on them than bicycles because on their own, pedestrians are less dangerous than bicycles.  When a pedestrian crashes into something, the likelihood of damage is lower.  Still, sometimes a jogger breaks someone&#8217;s hip, leg, etc. when they crash.  This doesn&#8217;t mean that all joggers should have to carry liability insurance because this isn&#8217;t how we decide insurance policy (based on extreme examples as opposed to the aggregate).  Additionally, drivers owe pedestrians in CA a &#8220;duty of care&#8221; whenever they&#8217;re in the roadway.  This means a pedestrian can be jaywalking while hit and not be at fault if the driver breached this duty (what would a reasonable person have done in the same situation).</p>
<p>You can still sue a bicyclist (or a pedestrian) under tort law and recover, you just won&#8217;t be able to recover from an insurer.</p>
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		<title>By: klm</title>
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		<dc:creator>klm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oh it takes -at least- 3 cops cars to acknowledge the damages. ok!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh it takes -at least- 3 cops cars to acknowledge the damages. ok!</p>
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		<title>By: Soonerdiver</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/07/16/car-mows-down-a-rack-of-bikes-in-front-of-zeitgeist/#comment-58528</link>
		<dc:creator>Soonerdiver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Silly question... do bicyclists have to carry liability insurance in California?  Or if they cause an accident do you have to claim against your own &#039;uninsured&#039; motorist policy?

You can&#039;t have it both ways... except in the case of bicycles... they are allowed to get away with anything they want.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silly question&#8230; do bicyclists have to carry liability insurance in California?  Or if they cause an accident do you have to claim against your own &#8216;uninsured&#8217; motorist policy?</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t have it both ways&#8230; except in the case of bicycles&#8230; they are allowed to get away with anything they want.</p>
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		<title>By: scum</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/07/16/car-mows-down-a-rack-of-bikes-in-front-of-zeitgeist/#comment-58503</link>
		<dc:creator>scum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 05:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What bike gang do you belong to?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What bike gang do you belong to?</p>
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		<title>By: biker</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/07/16/car-mows-down-a-rack-of-bikes-in-front-of-zeitgeist/#comment-58501</link>
		<dc:creator>biker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 05:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just shows that those hipster bicyclists are wimps. Real bikers would have beat that driver to a pulp.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just shows that those hipster bicyclists are wimps. Real bikers would have beat that driver to a pulp.</p>
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		<title>By: DJM</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 23:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whip it, sigle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whip it, sigle.</p>
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		<title>By: h0b0king</title>
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		<dc:creator>h0b0king</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 23:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hipsters in Zeitgeist? Not in force since 2006. Also most those bikes don&#039;t look like fixees to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hipsters in Zeitgeist? Not in force since 2006. Also most those bikes don&#8217;t look like fixees to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Vic Wong</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/07/16/car-mows-down-a-rack-of-bikes-in-front-of-zeitgeist/#comment-58483</link>
		<dc:creator>Vic Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 23:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, &quot;bike&#039;s&quot; is a contraction for &quot;bike[s locked to bicycle rack]s&quot;. (thanks, fixed)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, &#8220;bike&#8217;s&#8221; is a contraction for &#8220;bike[s locked to bicycle rack]s&#8221;. (thanks, fixed)</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 23:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Go cry in your bean soup, hipsters.]]></description>
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