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	<title>Comments on: How&#8217;s that Market and Valencia &#8216;turn pocket&#8217; working out for you?</title>
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		<title>By: Partywear saree</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/12/04/hows-that-market-and-valencia-turn-pocket-working-out-for-you/#comment-95248</link>
		<dc:creator>Partywear saree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Oct 2013 11:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the article is quite attractive ideas, good content, can find that your mind is very touched, i like your website very much</p>
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		<title>By: gain lean muscle</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/12/04/hows-that-market-and-valencia-turn-pocket-working-out-for-you/#comment-84312</link>
		<dc:creator>gain lean muscle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Sep 2013 05:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Badge Holder</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/12/04/hows-that-market-and-valencia-turn-pocket-working-out-for-you/#comment-76037</link>
		<dc:creator>Badge Holder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 05:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I ride it daily, Thanks for this]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ride it daily, Thanks for this</p>
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		<title>By: Iggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2013 15:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks like a bad place for cyclists. :(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like a bad place for cyclists. <img src='http://www.missionmission.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Confirm you are NOT a spammer</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/12/04/hows-that-market-and-valencia-turn-pocket-working-out-for-you/#comment-67596</link>
		<dc:creator>Confirm you are NOT a spammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 04:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[riders are worse to other riders than cars are to riders. There are a bunch of dicks out there on 2 wheels and I&#039;m one of them, I&#039;m afraid. We may never evolve.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>riders are worse to other riders than cars are to riders. There are a bunch of dicks out there on 2 wheels and I&#8217;m one of them, I&#8217;m afraid. We may never evolve.</p>
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		<title>By: Milk Steak</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/12/04/hows-that-market-and-valencia-turn-pocket-working-out-for-you/#comment-67530</link>
		<dc:creator>Milk Steak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 23:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve used the &quot;pocket&quot; a few times now and I&#039;m glad it&#039;s there. I used to find another way onto Valencia because I found it difficult sometimes to cut across the muni tracks while trying to fit into traffic. It&#039;s still not quite a carefree intersection though. Now I have to be careful not to get t-boned by cyclists going straight through the light. I usually just err on the side of caution and assume approaching riders are going to run the light to go straight through until it&#039;s obvious they&#039;re stopping.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve used the &#8220;pocket&#8221; a few times now and I&#8217;m glad it&#8217;s there. I used to find another way onto Valencia because I found it difficult sometimes to cut across the muni tracks while trying to fit into traffic. It&#8217;s still not quite a carefree intersection though. Now I have to be careful not to get t-boned by cyclists going straight through the light. I usually just err on the side of caution and assume approaching riders are going to run the light to go straight through until it&#8217;s obvious they&#8217;re stopping.</p>
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		<title>By: pdbird</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/12/04/hows-that-market-and-valencia-turn-pocket-working-out-for-you/#comment-67398</link>
		<dc:creator>pdbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 17:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well I take offense to this. As one,and maybe one in the minority that does stop at stop signs/lights. Always gives way to Pedestrians and  am very vocal about this issue. I take issue not with your hate but with the direction that you aim it. &quot;hipster douches on bikes&quot; Lets be honest if we are going to have this discussion.  I see many more  everyday commuters blow stop signs then any &quot;Hipster douces on bikes&quot; ,most of them have moved to Oakland BTW.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I take offense to this. As one,and maybe one in the minority that does stop at stop signs/lights. Always gives way to Pedestrians and  am very vocal about this issue. I take issue not with your hate but with the direction that you aim it. &#8220;hipster douches on bikes&#8221; Lets be honest if we are going to have this discussion.  I see many more  everyday commuters blow stop signs then any &#8220;Hipster douces on bikes&#8221; ,most of them have moved to Oakland BTW.</p>
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		<title>By: moto-waki</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/12/04/hows-that-market-and-valencia-turn-pocket-working-out-for-you/#comment-67396</link>
		<dc:creator>moto-waki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 17:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[go ahead, live your life in fear &amp; loathing.  the bikes will find you, and destroy you!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>go ahead, live your life in fear &amp; loathing.  the bikes will find you, and destroy you!!!</p>
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		<title>By: one</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/12/04/hows-that-market-and-valencia-turn-pocket-working-out-for-you/#comment-67393</link>
		<dc:creator>one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m FAR more afraid of bikes than cars. At least cars follow rules of the road far more than bike cretins. You can see them coming, versus some bastard coming silently out of nowhere in the middle of the night.

I&#039;ve been missed by mere inches about 5 times in the last 2 weeks by hipster douches on bikes. 
I fucking hate them all. I really really do. I&#039;m far from alone in feeling this.

When you are on your bike, know you are thoroughly loathed by many many people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m FAR more afraid of bikes than cars. At least cars follow rules of the road far more than bike cretins. You can see them coming, versus some bastard coming silently out of nowhere in the middle of the night.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been missed by mere inches about 5 times in the last 2 weeks by hipster douches on bikes.<br />
I fucking hate them all. I really really do. I&#8217;m far from alone in feeling this.</p>
<p>When you are on your bike, know you are thoroughly loathed by many many people.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Mission Neighbor</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/12/04/hows-that-market-and-valencia-turn-pocket-working-out-for-you/#comment-67388</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Mission Neighbor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 09:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whoa bro, watch it with those facts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa bro, watch it with those facts.</p>
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		<title>By: ML</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/12/04/hows-that-market-and-valencia-turn-pocket-working-out-for-you/#comment-67387</link>
		<dc:creator>ML</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 08:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So... To comment on the article itself:

This intersection is part of my daily commute. Though Valencia can be pretty such during rush hour (where did all these cars park/drive before there was a bike lane?!?!) the intersection to head onto Valencia from Market can be very difficult to navigate. 

I thought I&#039;d love this little turn pocket, but two issues for why I think its not as successful as it could be:

1) the timing for the cyclist green light doesnt turn green til well after the green arrow is given to make the left onto Valencia. So it&#039;s faster to try and navigate traffic as before the pocket installation or people just run the cyclist red signal. Either way, not great. **Please fix the timing for the cyclist signal to match the green arrow!!!**

2) motorists aren&#039;t really getting the &quot;keep clear&quot; need and keep stooping right in the middle of the pathway cyclists are suppose to take from the turnout onto Valencia. Some more paint could maybe help? Flashy lights maybe? Something to make it easier for motorists to see that the area does need to be open would be great.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230; To comment on the article itself:</p>
<p>This intersection is part of my daily commute. Though Valencia can be pretty such during rush hour (where did all these cars park/drive before there was a bike lane?!?!) the intersection to head onto Valencia from Market can be very difficult to navigate. </p>
<p>I thought I&#8217;d love this little turn pocket, but two issues for why I think its not as successful as it could be:</p>
<p>1) the timing for the cyclist green light doesnt turn green til well after the green arrow is given to make the left onto Valencia. So it&#8217;s faster to try and navigate traffic as before the pocket installation or people just run the cyclist red signal. Either way, not great. **Please fix the timing for the cyclist signal to match the green arrow!!!**</p>
<p>2) motorists aren&#8217;t really getting the &#8220;keep clear&#8221; need and keep stooping right in the middle of the pathway cyclists are suppose to take from the turnout onto Valencia. Some more paint could maybe help? Flashy lights maybe? Something to make it easier for motorists to see that the area does need to be open would be great.</p>
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		<title>By: pdbird</title>
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		<dc:creator>pdbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 02:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do.</p>
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		<title>By: pdbird</title>
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		<dc:creator>pdbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 02:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rod,the point im trying to make,is at this point,I feel i am MORE LIKELY to be hit by a cyclist then a car,where as five years ago I would have said the opposite.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rod,the point im trying to make,is at this point,I feel i am MORE LIKELY to be hit by a cyclist then a car,where as five years ago I would have said the opposite.</p>
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		<title>By: Hmm</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2012/12/04/hows-that-market-and-valencia-turn-pocket-working-out-for-you/#comment-67361</link>
		<dc:creator>Hmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 00:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[pretty sure he said &quot;at this point I am more worried,&quot; given his experiences. Context!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pretty sure he said &#8220;at this point I am more worried,&#8221; given his experiences. Context!</p>
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		<title>By: rod</title>
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		<dc:creator>rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 00:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[but you see what i&#039;m getting at, no? even though regular riders like me and you have that intersection figured out, i still encounter cars and bikes on a daily basis that don&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but you see what i&#8217;m getting at, no? even though regular riders like me and you have that intersection figured out, i still encounter cars and bikes on a daily basis that don&#8217;t.</p>
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