Comments on: New cabs come equipped with passenger mirrors to check for cyclists prior to egress http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/ Saluting San Francisco's Mission District Thu, 23 May 2013 00:45:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Todd Edelman, Slow Factory http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/#comment-69150 Todd Edelman, Slow Factory Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:53:48 +0000 http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/#comment-69150 * San Francisco has lots of one-way streets so "curbside" - more precisely perhaps the non-traffic side - can mean either side of a vehicle, or even both sides on a narrow street. * It is not clear to me if there are mirrors getting installed on both sides. * I imagine that the learning curve for these - because they are very non-standard - is very steep. Passengers will use them rarely, probably for a long time. * I smell Lawyers try to deflect liability. * How come we have not heard much if anything about this until now? * Does this work in other cities? * Is there some legal or formal problem with making the taxi drivers responsible not just for stopping in as safe a location as possible BUT also controlling the doors, as they do in buses? I know that sometimes - very rarely - cabbies abduct fares but there can be some kind of emergency exit provision. * As some readers might know, doorings of cyclists are very rare in the Netherlands. This is because on most busy & fast streets there is full separation between bikes and motorized vehicles, AND also because drivers are taught to look over their left - traffic-side - shoulder while also - this is key! - opening the door with their anti-traffic side hand. * San Francisco has lots of one-way streets so “curbside” – more precisely perhaps the non-traffic side – can mean either side of a vehicle, or even both sides on a narrow street.

* It is not clear to me if there are mirrors getting installed on both sides.

* I imagine that the learning curve for these – because they are very non-standard – is very steep. Passengers will use them rarely, probably for a long time.

* I smell Lawyers try to deflect liability.

* How come we have not heard much if anything about this until now?

* Does this work in other cities?

* Is there some legal or formal problem with making the taxi drivers responsible not just for stopping in as safe a location as possible BUT also controlling the doors, as they do in buses? I know that sometimes – very rarely – cabbies abduct fares but there can be some kind of emergency exit provision.

* As some readers might know, doorings of cyclists are very rare in the Netherlands. This is because on most busy & fast streets there is full separation between bikes and motorized vehicles, AND also because drivers are taught to look over their left – traffic-side – shoulder while also – this is key! – opening the door with their anti-traffic side hand.

]]> By: Scantron http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/#comment-68854 Scantron Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:43:04 +0000 http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/#comment-68854 only thoughtless clueless idiots speak in absolutes. "grow up" and tilt your head around, if you can manage to pull it out of your condom-wearing stranger's ass. only thoughtless clueless idiots speak in absolutes. “grow up” and tilt your head around, if you can manage to pull it out of your condom-wearing stranger’s ass.

]]> By: Richard http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/#comment-68704 Richard Thu, 10 Jan 2013 07:39:46 +0000 http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/#comment-68704 I was doored on by an idiot cab passenger exiting from the "curb-side" (but nowhere near the curb) IN THE MIDDLE OF 16TH. $50+k of medical expense, months on crutches, and a leg that won't ever be remotely close to 100%. It's not just street-side exit-ers who can be "thoughtless, clueless idiots. Not that such would look at a mirror before leaping out into traffic anyway. I was doored on by an idiot cab passenger exiting from the “curb-side” (but nowhere near the curb) IN THE MIDDLE OF 16TH. $50+k of medical expense, months on crutches, and a leg that won’t ever be remotely close to 100%.

It’s not just street-side exit-ers who can be “thoughtless, clueless idiots. Not that such would look at a mirror before leaping out into traffic anyway.

]]> By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/#comment-68663 Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable Thu, 10 Jan 2013 01:30:59 +0000 http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/#comment-68663 Naw. Naw.

]]> By: Ha http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/#comment-68659 Ha Thu, 10 Jan 2013 00:40:56 +0000 http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/#comment-68659 "Grow up" “Grow up”

]]> By: Rusyn Americans http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/#comment-68656 Rusyn Americans Thu, 10 Jan 2013 00:35:05 +0000 http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/#comment-68656 Naw you're just wrong again, but as usual, too stubborn to accept the fact that some other blog-common-tater-as-a-raison-d'etre-dude is righter than you. Naw you’re just wrong again, but as usual, too stubborn to accept the fact that some other blog-common-tater-as-a-raison-d’etre-dude is righter than you.

]]> By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/#comment-68644 Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable Wed, 09 Jan 2013 22:27:26 +0000 http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/#comment-68644 Naw, that's just crazytalk. Naw, that’s just crazytalk.

]]> By: Crab y Monkey http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/#comment-68643 Crab y Monkey Wed, 09 Jan 2013 22:23:36 +0000 http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/#comment-68643 Grow up. Grow up.

]]> By: Crab y Monkey http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/#comment-68642 Crab y Monkey Wed, 09 Jan 2013 22:22:27 +0000 http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/#comment-68642 Nope. Not ever. Get out street side = get run over. Or get run over X2 (by Muni). Or door bikes. Any number of things might happen that would suck for you, or for someone else. Why would you risk the possible consequences, to yourself or to someone else, unless you are a psychopath? Nope. Not ever. Get out street side = get run over. Or get run over X2 (by Muni). Or door bikes.

Any number of things might happen that would suck for you, or for someone else.

Why would you risk the possible consequences, to yourself or to someone else, unless you are a psychopath?

]]> By: snark attack http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/#comment-68641 snark attack Wed, 09 Jan 2013 22:15:26 +0000 http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/#comment-68641 @Crab y Monkey - you're a dick @Crab y Monkey – you’re a dick

]]> By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/#comment-68640 Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable Wed, 09 Jan 2013 22:09:44 +0000 http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/#comment-68640 Naw. Plenty of times it makes sense to get out on the street side. Naw. Plenty of times it makes sense to get out on the street side.

]]> By: TinyTim http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/#comment-68634 TinyTim Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:40:42 +0000 http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/#comment-68634 You simply don't exit from street-side. You scoot over to the curbside door if there's more than one of you. Why is this so difficult? Just eat less pork belly, chocolate and bacon and you'll manage. And why don't cabs pull over more towards the curb, and still allow room to open the curbside door? They often just stop in the middle of the lane. I don't get it. You simply don’t exit from street-side. You scoot over to the curbside door if there’s more than one of you. Why is this so difficult? Just eat less pork belly, chocolate and bacon and you’ll manage.
And why don’t cabs pull over more towards the curb, and still allow room to open the curbside door? They often just stop in the middle of the lane. I don’t get it.

]]> By: tuffy http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/#comment-68632 tuffy Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:32:23 +0000 http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/#comment-68632 I was thinking the same thing. Heavens forbid someone actually tries to proactively address a problem. I was thinking the same thing. Heavens forbid someone actually tries to proactively address a problem.

]]> By: Crab y Monkey http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/#comment-68630 Crab y Monkey Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:08:03 +0000 http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/#comment-68630 Is that why all SF cabs have little printed things telling people not to get out in the street? Is that why all SF cabs have little printed things telling people not to get out in the street?

]]> By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/#comment-68627 Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable Wed, 09 Jan 2013 20:54:57 +0000 http://www.missionmission.org/2013/01/09/new-cabs-come-equipped-with-passenger-mirrors-to-check-for-cyclists-prior-to-egress/#comment-68627 Naw, that's crazytalk. Naw, that’s crazytalk.

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