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		<title>By: troll</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2013/08/06/get-your-jack-off/#comment-81505</link>
		<dc:creator>troll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2013 17:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cool story, but you give no concrete examples of current stores operating like that or these UBER backers!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool story, but you give no concrete examples of current stores operating like that or these UBER backers!</p>
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		<title>By: flip burgus</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2013/08/06/get-your-jack-off/#comment-81502</link>
		<dc:creator>flip burgus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2013 15:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[funny how people are like fixated on jack spade. how about all the restaurants on valencia, do you think they are all owned by &quot;pull yourself up by your boot straps&quot; folks? no, they have huge backing by uber wealthy restaurant groups. talk bout the 1%, any idea the single owner or few owners of these places clear every year? are they better than some cooperate executive making the same amount of money? 

this is america, let jack spade open and if people dont want it, they wont shop there and they will close. but sadly they are exactly what these new moneyed mission people want. also, with all the backlash i am sure there business will be negatively affected because some people will be afraid to be seen shopping there. 

the mission is dead, accept it and lets all move on. now when i see an over coiffed moron,with ugly shoes walking from valencia street with brand new outfits, from head to toe and carrying a little bag...i just laugh at them and whisper as they walk by...&quot;welcome to YOUR new mission&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>funny how people are like fixated on jack spade. how about all the restaurants on valencia, do you think they are all owned by &#8220;pull yourself up by your boot straps&#8221; folks? no, they have huge backing by uber wealthy restaurant groups. talk bout the 1%, any idea the single owner or few owners of these places clear every year? are they better than some cooperate executive making the same amount of money? </p>
<p>this is america, let jack spade open and if people dont want it, they wont shop there and they will close. but sadly they are exactly what these new moneyed mission people want. also, with all the backlash i am sure there business will be negatively affected because some people will be afraid to be seen shopping there. </p>
<p>the mission is dead, accept it and lets all move on. now when i see an over coiffed moron,with ugly shoes walking from valencia street with brand new outfits, from head to toe and carrying a little bag&#8230;i just laugh at them and whisper as they walk by&#8230;&#8221;welcome to YOUR new mission&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: trixr4kids</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2013/08/06/get-your-jack-off/#comment-81422</link>
		<dc:creator>trixr4kids</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2013 04:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you&#039;d be surprised....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;d be surprised&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: trixr4kids</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2013/08/06/get-your-jack-off/#comment-81421</link>
		<dc:creator>trixr4kids</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2013 03:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[isn&#039;t jack spade a subsidiary of liz claiborne? that would make it larger than 11 stores.

liz claiborne is a $1.5 billion dollar concern.

http://uptownalmanac.com/2013/06/liz-claiborne-holdings-halts-construction-former-site-adobe-books]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>isn&#8217;t jack spade a subsidiary of liz claiborne? that would make it larger than 11 stores.</p>
<p>liz claiborne is a $1.5 billion dollar concern.</p>
<p><a href="http://uptownalmanac.com/2013/06/liz-claiborne-holdings-halts-construction-former-site-adobe-books" rel="nofollow">http://uptownalmanac.com/2013/06/liz-claiborne-holdings-halts-construction-former-site-adobe-books</a></p>
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		<title>By: trixr4kids</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2013/08/06/get-your-jack-off/#comment-81420</link>
		<dc:creator>trixr4kids</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2013 03:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you&#039;re a fucking idiot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;re a fucking idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2013/08/06/get-your-jack-off/#comment-81418</link>
		<dc:creator>Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2013 02:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This &quot;Tom in SFCA&quot; guy has to be a random troll.  Nobody could ACTUALLY be that dumb.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This &#8220;Tom in SFCA&#8221; guy has to be a random troll.  Nobody could ACTUALLY be that dumb.</p>
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		<title>By: brett</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2013/08/06/get-your-jack-off/#comment-81413</link>
		<dc:creator>brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2013 00:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Community Boards was not evicted from 3130 24th and did not lose their business. They had moved to a new office before Adobe even began looking at 24th street. Just ask them. Adobe and Community Boards have done the last two Sunday Streets together on 24th and each is happy for the other.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Community Boards was not evicted from 3130 24th and did not lose their business. They had moved to a new office before Adobe even began looking at 24th street. Just ask them. Adobe and Community Boards have done the last two Sunday Streets together on 24th and each is happy for the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2013/08/06/get-your-jack-off/#comment-81368</link>
		<dc:creator>Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Aug 2013 15:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well said.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said.</p>
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		<title>By: $75 v-neck t-shirt</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2013/08/06/get-your-jack-off/#comment-81364</link>
		<dc:creator>$75 v-neck t-shirt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Aug 2013 07:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yay!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yay!</p>
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		<title>By: scum</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2013/08/06/get-your-jack-off/#comment-81358</link>
		<dc:creator>scum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Aug 2013 04:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t have a horse in this race but I do like to meet up with some of the crew from here for a drink.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have a horse in this race but I do like to meet up with some of the crew from here for a drink.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivy</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2013/08/06/get-your-jack-off/#comment-81352</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Aug 2013 03:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I want a debate! I&#039;d go, fur real.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want a debate! I&#8217;d go, fur real.</p>
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		<title>By: Ariel Dovas</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2013/08/06/get-your-jack-off/#comment-81351</link>
		<dc:creator>Ariel Dovas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Aug 2013 03:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If only we could make this happen, but unfortunately many of our commenters lose their voice once they step away from the comfort of anonymity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only we could make this happen, but unfortunately many of our commenters lose their voice once they step away from the comfort of anonymity.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2013/08/06/get-your-jack-off/#comment-81350</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Aug 2013 03:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m still up for the Mission Mission hosted debate at Uptown if anyone cares to take the yes on Jack Spade side.

And I&#039;ll buy the drinks for my opponent, win or lose!

: )]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still up for the Mission Mission hosted debate at Uptown if anyone cares to take the yes on Jack Spade side.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ll buy the drinks for my opponent, win or lose!</p>
<p>: )</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2013/08/06/get-your-jack-off/#comment-81349</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Aug 2013 03:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Again, Andy, you merely restate the premise without explaining why you believe it is true.&quot;

Tom, I guess you didn&#039;t read what I wrote?

&quot;Local economies pose unique challenges, yes. But they are superior in essentially every regard to economies where ownership is absent and wealth is extracted from the local community and filtered into the pockets of stockholders in far off places who have no connection to the local community.&quot;

This is one tiny aspect of the issue and yet it alone is enough of an argument to limit corporate chain store growth.

Here&#039;s another one: 
Corporate chain stores drive up rents and eventually make it impossible for anything other than corporate chain stores to exist in the corridor.  Maybe this doesn&#039;t bother you. Fact: it bothers a majority of SF voters, for starters.

Chain stores driving up rents is also alone reason enough to regulate their growth.

Meanwhile, I&#039;d love for you to answer my direct questions you avoided:

&quot;Do you think there is (or ever was) something/anything special about San Francisco and some of its neighborhoods? Are you honestly not able to recognize how the fact that some neighborhoods in this city are yet not overrun with Walmarts, McDonalds, and designer chainstores, might just have some small part to do with why SF is not yet as bland and stupid as 99.9% of the rest of this country?&quot;

But maybe you like corporate chain stores. Maybe you like Walmart and prefer eating at McDonalds to eating at a local taqueria. Fine. Then I can&#039;t convince you of anything and we have nothing to discuss. But there are plenty of people in this town who want local businesses and local character and that&#039;s a big reason SF is the unique place that it is and it&#039;s a big reason why so many people want to live here.

I think most people get that even if you can&#039;t seem to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Again, Andy, you merely restate the premise without explaining why you believe it is true.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tom, I guess you didn&#8217;t read what I wrote?</p>
<p>&#8220;Local economies pose unique challenges, yes. But they are superior in essentially every regard to economies where ownership is absent and wealth is extracted from the local community and filtered into the pockets of stockholders in far off places who have no connection to the local community.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is one tiny aspect of the issue and yet it alone is enough of an argument to limit corporate chain store growth.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another one:<br />
Corporate chain stores drive up rents and eventually make it impossible for anything other than corporate chain stores to exist in the corridor.  Maybe this doesn&#8217;t bother you. Fact: it bothers a majority of SF voters, for starters.</p>
<p>Chain stores driving up rents is also alone reason enough to regulate their growth.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, I&#8217;d love for you to answer my direct questions you avoided:</p>
<p>&#8220;Do you think there is (or ever was) something/anything special about San Francisco and some of its neighborhoods? Are you honestly not able to recognize how the fact that some neighborhoods in this city are yet not overrun with Walmarts, McDonalds, and designer chainstores, might just have some small part to do with why SF is not yet as bland and stupid as 99.9% of the rest of this country?&#8221;</p>
<p>But maybe you like corporate chain stores. Maybe you like Walmart and prefer eating at McDonalds to eating at a local taqueria. Fine. Then I can&#8217;t convince you of anything and we have nothing to discuss. But there are plenty of people in this town who want local businesses and local character and that&#8217;s a big reason SF is the unique place that it is and it&#8217;s a big reason why so many people want to live here.</p>
<p>I think most people get that even if you can&#8217;t seem to.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom in SFCA</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2013/08/06/get-your-jack-off/#comment-81346</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom in SFCA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Aug 2013 00:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, so mattod finally identified an economic factor favoring local ownership over outside ownership, namely that local owners might spend a greater part of their profits (if any) locally than outsiders would. But that is just one of many factors.  Outside owners bring in outside money to start the business.  The money that would have been used by the would-be local owner is instead used for something else that might also be local. Limiting the ability of outsiders to start businesses here lowers the value of local real estate causing less money to be available to be spent here by local real estate owners in general.  There are many economic factors and they combine in complex ways.  Yet we have commenters here that claim that the net results favor the pro-local approach in ways that are *obvious!* and that anyone who doubts the pro-local catechism simply needs to &quot;educate&quot; themselves (as though all of the pro-local folks have all done some sort of robust economic analysis).  I&#039;m still unconvinced that this whole anti-chain sentiment is in fact a the result of rational economic analysis rather than merely people wanting to be cool latching onto the hip dogma.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, so mattod finally identified an economic factor favoring local ownership over outside ownership, namely that local owners might spend a greater part of their profits (if any) locally than outsiders would. But that is just one of many factors.  Outside owners bring in outside money to start the business.  The money that would have been used by the would-be local owner is instead used for something else that might also be local. Limiting the ability of outsiders to start businesses here lowers the value of local real estate causing less money to be available to be spent here by local real estate owners in general.  There are many economic factors and they combine in complex ways.  Yet we have commenters here that claim that the net results favor the pro-local approach in ways that are *obvious!* and that anyone who doubts the pro-local catechism simply needs to &#8220;educate&#8221; themselves (as though all of the pro-local folks have all done some sort of robust economic analysis).  I&#8217;m still unconvinced that this whole anti-chain sentiment is in fact a the result of rational economic analysis rather than merely people wanting to be cool latching onto the hip dogma.</p>
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