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	<title>Comments on: Did Delfina&#8217;s Craig Stoll end poverty?</title>
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	<description>Saluting San Francisco&#039;s Mission District</description>
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		<title>By: Ellis Island</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2013/11/17/did-delfinas-craig-stoll-end-poverty/#comment-96643</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellis Island</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Dec 2013 20:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is Delfina?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is Delfina?</p>
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		<title>By: Ellis Island</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2013/11/17/did-delfinas-craig-stoll-end-poverty/#comment-96641</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellis Island</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Dec 2013 20:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have 30 days to vacate - my, uh, family is moving in. Yeah that&#039;s it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have 30 days to vacate &#8211; my, uh, family is moving in. Yeah that&#8217;s it.</p>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2013/11/17/did-delfinas-craig-stoll-end-poverty/#comment-96622</link>
		<dc:creator>Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Nov 2013 18:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t care if it&#039;s run by Martians, all I know is that it is the best Italian restaurant in the city.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care if it&#8217;s run by Martians, all I know is that it is the best Italian restaurant in the city.</p>
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		<title>By: Zig</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2013/11/17/did-delfinas-craig-stoll-end-poverty/#comment-96621</link>
		<dc:creator>Zig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Nov 2013 17:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m brown and have many times]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m brown and have many times</p>
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		<title>By: Zig</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2013/11/17/did-delfinas-craig-stoll-end-poverty/#comment-96620</link>
		<dc:creator>Zig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Nov 2013 17:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lol.  That place is horrible run by fucking Albanians or something]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol.  That place is horrible run by fucking Albanians or something</p>
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		<title>By: Zig</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2013/11/17/did-delfinas-craig-stoll-end-poverty/#comment-96619</link>
		<dc:creator>Zig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Nov 2013 17:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When was that?  I never heard of any of my relatives being holed up.  Sounds like bullshit.  Are you a Mission native?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When was that?  I never heard of any of my relatives being holed up.  Sounds like bullshit.  Are you a Mission native?</p>
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		<title>By: bernalhip</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2013/11/17/did-delfinas-craig-stoll-end-poverty/#comment-96451</link>
		<dc:creator>bernalhip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2013 21:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just made a res at La Traviata.  Thanks for the tip.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just made a res at La Traviata.  Thanks for the tip.</p>
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		<title>By: gabriel</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2013/11/17/did-delfinas-craig-stoll-end-poverty/#comment-96439</link>
		<dc:creator>gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s problematic that Stoll positions his private business as a force for civic good without considering any concerns from the community he claims to be serving (&quot;Don&#039;t even talk to me...&quot;).

It&#039;s problematic - and a little insulting - that Stoll regards &#039;squalor and poverty&#039; as the defining characteristics of the neighborhood people like Ariel were living in.

It&#039;s problematic that Stoll regards &quot;squalor and poverty&quot; primarily as personal inconveniences rather than signs of human misery or - and this is key - broad indicators of social issues that could be addressed by civic-minded businessmen like himself.

It&#039;s problematic that Stoll does not indicate any grasp of the qualitative difference between actively addressing social issues vs. opening a restaurant and taking credit when signs of those social issues become less immediately visible.

I&#039;m inclined to disagree with the assertion you make here, Peter, that Ariel&#039;s intent was to hypothetically pose a rhetorical question in order to &quot;[answer] his question for him.&quot; Your premise that personal biases shouldn&#039;t inform opinions expressed in blog writing also sounds fishy. 

Ariel has introduced problematic statements made in a public forum by a prominent businessman about issues pertaining to the Mission District. Regardless of whether you&#039;re inclined to agree with the opinion expressed, it&#039;s not really a piece of crap, Peter. That wasn&#039;t a nice thing to say.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s problematic that Stoll positions his private business as a force for civic good without considering any concerns from the community he claims to be serving (&#8220;Don&#8217;t even talk to me&#8230;&#8221;).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s problematic &#8211; and a little insulting &#8211; that Stoll regards &#8216;squalor and poverty&#8217; as the defining characteristics of the neighborhood people like Ariel were living in.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s problematic that Stoll regards &#8220;squalor and poverty&#8221; primarily as personal inconveniences rather than signs of human misery or &#8211; and this is key &#8211; broad indicators of social issues that could be addressed by civic-minded businessmen like himself.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s problematic that Stoll does not indicate any grasp of the qualitative difference between actively addressing social issues vs. opening a restaurant and taking credit when signs of those social issues become less immediately visible.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m inclined to disagree with the assertion you make here, Peter, that Ariel&#8217;s intent was to hypothetically pose a rhetorical question in order to &#8220;[answer] his question for him.&#8221; Your premise that personal biases shouldn&#8217;t inform opinions expressed in blog writing also sounds fishy. </p>
<p>Ariel has introduced problematic statements made in a public forum by a prominent businessman about issues pertaining to the Mission District. Regardless of whether you&#8217;re inclined to agree with the opinion expressed, it&#8217;s not really a piece of crap, Peter. That wasn&#8217;t a nice thing to say.</p>
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		<title>By: 1%er</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2013/11/17/did-delfinas-craig-stoll-end-poverty/#comment-96425</link>
		<dc:creator>1%er</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2013 00:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m just glad brown people can&#039;t afford to live here or eat at these places.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just glad brown people can&#8217;t afford to live here or eat at these places.</p>
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		<title>By: Nasty</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2013/11/17/did-delfinas-craig-stoll-end-poverty/#comment-96414</link>
		<dc:creator>Nasty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Nov 2013 10:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dude said &quot;good pizza joints.&quot; That doesn&#039;t just mean joints that make good pizza. It also means pizza joints which are good places in which to find oneself. Delfina is like the worst place to be, regardless of product quality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude said &#8220;good pizza joints.&#8221; That doesn&#8217;t just mean joints that make good pizza. It also means pizza joints which are good places in which to find oneself. Delfina is like the worst place to be, regardless of product quality.</p>
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		<title>By: Nasty</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2013/11/17/did-delfinas-craig-stoll-end-poverty/#comment-96413</link>
		<dc:creator>Nasty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Nov 2013 10:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Visionaries? It&#039;s visionary to have some money, invest it in a restaurant, and then start a restaurant?

I don&#039;t think you know what words mean. You lucked out and almost put a bunch of them together coherently.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Visionaries? It&#8217;s visionary to have some money, invest it in a restaurant, and then start a restaurant?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you know what words mean. You lucked out and almost put a bunch of them together coherently.</p>
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		<title>By: Nasty</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2013/11/17/did-delfinas-craig-stoll-end-poverty/#comment-96412</link>
		<dc:creator>Nasty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Nov 2013 10:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A lot of things are cool that aren&#039;t 1990s anarcho-punk life. Techno-libertarian-drenched neighborhoods are not one of those things, however.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of things are cool that aren&#8217;t 1990s anarcho-punk life. Techno-libertarian-drenched neighborhoods are not one of those things, however.</p>
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		<title>By: Nasty</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2013/11/17/did-delfinas-craig-stoll-end-poverty/#comment-96411</link>
		<dc:creator>Nasty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Nov 2013 10:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s pretty funny that you technocrats try to pretend you&#039;re not libertarians. Dude, we all know who you are. You think tech can solve all problems, you think your industry is a meritocracy, and you&#039;re voting for Ro Khanna. We know. Just relax.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s pretty funny that you technocrats try to pretend you&#8217;re not libertarians. Dude, we all know who you are. You think tech can solve all problems, you think your industry is a meritocracy, and you&#8217;re voting for Ro Khanna. We know. Just relax.</p>
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		<title>By: Nasty</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2013/11/17/did-delfinas-craig-stoll-end-poverty/#comment-96410</link>
		<dc:creator>Nasty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Nov 2013 10:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Paying some fucking dues&quot;--working in Silicon Valley is paying dues? I thought you had to do, you know, something hard.

&quot;Fuck it, I now have at least 10 maybe more alternates to find a good and rare beer.&quot;--Oh you just keep getting more precious.

&quot;Gun play seems to be down but these things go in cycles as 11-year olds turn 12 and need to make their name and as old grudges are rekindled once homey is released from stir.&quot;--A little implied racism and classism, very nice touch.

&quot;I can still get the best goddamned burrito or taco made but I can also get better Tuscan food than I ever had in Tuscany.&quot;--At what point during the rigorous, soul-crushing drudgery of paying dues by writing computer programs did you take your vacation to Tuscany?

&quot;raising the general welfare of San Francisco.&quot;--I.e., pushing all of its problems into one or two specific areas of the city and most of Oakland.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Paying some fucking dues&#8221;&#8211;working in Silicon Valley is paying dues? I thought you had to do, you know, something hard.</p>
<p>&#8220;Fuck it, I now have at least 10 maybe more alternates to find a good and rare beer.&#8221;&#8211;Oh you just keep getting more precious.</p>
<p>&#8220;Gun play seems to be down but these things go in cycles as 11-year olds turn 12 and need to make their name and as old grudges are rekindled once homey is released from stir.&#8221;&#8211;A little implied racism and classism, very nice touch.</p>
<p>&#8220;I can still get the best goddamned burrito or taco made but I can also get better Tuscan food than I ever had in Tuscany.&#8221;&#8211;At what point during the rigorous, soul-crushing drudgery of paying dues by writing computer programs did you take your vacation to Tuscany?</p>
<p>&#8220;raising the general welfare of San Francisco.&#8221;&#8211;I.e., pushing all of its problems into one or two specific areas of the city and most of Oakland.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2013/11/17/did-delfinas-craig-stoll-end-poverty/#comment-96352</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Nov 2013 21:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed!  He and his wife started out with almost nothing and made something of themselves and the neighborhood as well... And damn that pizza is good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed!  He and his wife started out with almost nothing and made something of themselves and the neighborhood as well&#8230; And damn that pizza is good.</p>
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