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	<title>Comments on: Here is the condo complex that might replace Elbo Room</title>
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		<title>By: G Walker</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2014/02/07/here-is-the-condo-complex-that-might-replace-elbo-room/#comment-103942</link>
		<dc:creator>G Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2014 04:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The owners are proceeding with their plan to raze the Room and put up a condominium in its place.  There is a pre-application meeting scheduled to review their plans on November 6th from 6-8 in the community room of the Mission Police Station across from the Room.  This is a chance to make your voice heard, whatever your opinion of the project.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The owners are proceeding with their plan to raze the Room and put up a condominium in its place.  There is a pre-application meeting scheduled to review their plans on November 6th from 6-8 in the community room of the Mission Police Station across from the Room.  This is a chance to make your voice heard, whatever your opinion of the project.</p>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2014/02/07/here-is-the-condo-complex-that-might-replace-elbo-room/#comment-98134</link>
		<dc:creator>Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Consider it brought.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consider it brought.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2014/02/07/here-is-the-condo-complex-that-might-replace-elbo-room/#comment-98132</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some high quality Fox News joirnism here MM.   Bring on the hate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some high quality Fox News joirnism here MM.   Bring on the hate.</p>
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		<title>By: porter</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2014/02/07/here-is-the-condo-complex-that-might-replace-elbo-room/#comment-98117</link>
		<dc:creator>porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Feb 2014 22:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The construction designs are ugly, and sadly, typical of this era&#039;s construction.  Are they trying to create a suburban feel? (barf).  For all the people out there that are excited for this type of change, you should ask yourself why you moved to the city in the first place.  Probably because of the originality, and awesome eclectic crowd.  I fight this change because I don&#039;t want to live in Palo Alto.  If you are supporting it, don’t live here. You are ruining a truly original city.

I&#039;m so sad about the Elbo Room...the people that don&#039;t care don&#039;t go there (and for that we are thankful) but it is a shame we civilized folks could be losing a great establishment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The construction designs are ugly, and sadly, typical of this era&#8217;s construction.  Are they trying to create a suburban feel? (barf).  For all the people out there that are excited for this type of change, you should ask yourself why you moved to the city in the first place.  Probably because of the originality, and awesome eclectic crowd.  I fight this change because I don&#8217;t want to live in Palo Alto.  If you are supporting it, don’t live here. You are ruining a truly original city.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so sad about the Elbo Room&#8230;the people that don&#8217;t care don&#8217;t go there (and for that we are thankful) but it is a shame we civilized folks could be losing a great establishment.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2014/02/07/here-is-the-condo-complex-that-might-replace-elbo-room/#comment-98109</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Feb 2014 09:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem isn&#039;t the architect.  Blame the city - they&#039;re the ones that approve that garbage design 2349082340987 times.  Between the crowd-sourced approval process, and the cost to develop anything in the city, that&#039;s what you end up with.  The ugly-as-fuck-but-will-get-approved design.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem isn&#8217;t the architect.  Blame the city &#8211; they&#8217;re the ones that approve that garbage design 2349082340987 times.  Between the crowd-sourced approval process, and the cost to develop anything in the city, that&#8217;s what you end up with.  The ugly-as-fuck-but-will-get-approved design.</p>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2014/02/07/here-is-the-condo-complex-that-might-replace-elbo-room/#comment-98108</link>
		<dc:creator>Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Feb 2014 06:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Annex Colma.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annex Colma.</p>
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		<title>By: Grizzled Mission</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2014/02/07/here-is-the-condo-complex-that-might-replace-elbo-room/#comment-98104</link>
		<dc:creator>Grizzled Mission</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Feb 2014 00:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And yet, if it were bigger, everyone would complain it&#039;s too big, or too tall, or too whatever, and - of course - how it doesn&#039;t fit with &quot;the character of the neighborhood.&quot;

Let&#039;s quickly build a few thousand two-flat Victorians. Where? I don&#039;t know, I&#039;m a big-picture guy, YOU take care of it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet, if it were bigger, everyone would complain it&#8217;s too big, or too tall, or too whatever, and &#8211; of course &#8211; how it doesn&#8217;t fit with &#8220;the character of the neighborhood.&#8221;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s quickly build a few thousand two-flat Victorians. Where? I don&#8217;t know, I&#8217;m a big-picture guy, YOU take care of it!</p>
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		<title>By: Don Miguel</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2014/02/07/here-is-the-condo-complex-that-might-replace-elbo-room/#comment-98093</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Miguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2014 06:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are a troll.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are a troll.</p>
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		<title>By: two beers</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2014/02/07/here-is-the-condo-complex-that-might-replace-elbo-room/#comment-98092</link>
		<dc:creator>two beers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2014 03:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[$200,000 is approx 99th percentile. http://www.theglitteringeye.com/images/us-income-distribution.gif

How many people making 200 large do you think are buying in the Mission now?

If you&#039;re buying in the Mission right now, you&#039;re approx in the top .1%.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$200,000 is approx 99th percentile. <a href="http://www.theglitteringeye.com/images/us-income-distribution.gif" rel="nofollow">http://www.theglitteringeye.com/images/us-income-distribution.gif</a></p>
<p>How many people making 200 large do you think are buying in the Mission now?</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re buying in the Mission right now, you&#8217;re approx in the top .1%.</p>
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		<title>By: Zig</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2014/02/07/here-is-the-condo-complex-that-might-replace-elbo-room/#comment-98086</link>
		<dc:creator>Zig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Feb 2014 19:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My comment was referring to  Elbo Room and those lamenting the loss who may not realize they themselves are like 2nd generation gentrifiers.  

The rest of your post is just ranting against strawmen.  I empathize with locals being evicted for one thing and secondly I live in a 900 sq foot rent controlled apartment with my wife and daughter.  When my second comes we will have to leave.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment was referring to  Elbo Room and those lamenting the loss who may not realize they themselves are like 2nd generation gentrifiers.  </p>
<p>The rest of your post is just ranting against strawmen.  I empathize with locals being evicted for one thing and secondly I live in a 900 sq foot rent controlled apartment with my wife and daughter.  When my second comes we will have to leave.</p>
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		<title>By: one beer</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2014/02/07/here-is-the-condo-complex-that-might-replace-elbo-room/#comment-98085</link>
		<dc:creator>one beer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Feb 2014 19:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i thought rent controlled, middle aged losers ran this town. lol.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i thought rent controlled, middle aged losers ran this town. lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Zig</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2014/02/07/here-is-the-condo-complex-that-might-replace-elbo-room/#comment-98084</link>
		<dc:creator>Zig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Feb 2014 19:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That seems exaggerated.  Is a 200k family income top .1%?  This is a factual statement we can check]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That seems exaggerated.  Is a 200k family income top .1%?  This is a factual statement we can check</p>
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		<title>By: Zig</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2014/02/07/here-is-the-condo-complex-that-might-replace-elbo-room/#comment-98083</link>
		<dc:creator>Zig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Feb 2014 19:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My comment about knowing the location since the 1980s was just offering perspective not trying to establish cred.  Everyone is entitled to their opinion.  My grandfather lived around the corner.  The lesbian bar that preceded the Elbo room might be seen as the first wave of gentrification in my family&#039;s view so the comments from some lamenting to loss of the Elbo Room from the next generation of gentrifiers amuses me. 

In all honestly my post was referring to urban design first and foremost and why it is bland in SF so often.

I don&#039;t know how to take your comment about schools.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment about knowing the location since the 1980s was just offering perspective not trying to establish cred.  Everyone is entitled to their opinion.  My grandfather lived around the corner.  The lesbian bar that preceded the Elbo room might be seen as the first wave of gentrification in my family&#8217;s view so the comments from some lamenting to loss of the Elbo Room from the next generation of gentrifiers amuses me. </p>
<p>In all honestly my post was referring to urban design first and foremost and why it is bland in SF so often.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how to take your comment about schools.</p>
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		<title>By: Zig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Feb 2014 19:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two beers

My view is the club has a property owner and the zoning allows the change.  Nothing more or less than that.  I don&#039;t mind if the Elbo Room persists or changes again to a new venue]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two beers</p>
<p>My view is the club has a property owner and the zoning allows the change.  Nothing more or less than that.  I don&#8217;t mind if the Elbo Room persists or changes again to a new venue</p>
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		<title>By: Fotorolo</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2014/02/07/here-is-the-condo-complex-that-might-replace-elbo-room/#comment-98081</link>
		<dc:creator>Fotorolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Feb 2014 19:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hear, hear, sir, hear, hear.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear, hear, sir, hear, hear.</p>
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