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	<title>Comments on: If that Jack Spade store had actually succeeded in moving to the Mission, it&#8217;d be closing right now</title>
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		<title>By: wurple</title>
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		<dc:creator>wurple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2015 12:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like you should ask the landlord.]]></description>
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		<title>By: Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2015 20:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re logic hinges on the fallacy that 16th and Guerrero is an unpopular and inexpensive place to open a business. That rent would have been raised regardless, just like it has been raised on every business on that block (ask around). 

No one will touch it with a 10-foot pole now, not because they don&#039;t want to pay the rent but because of the clusterfuck that happened with Jack Spade. Your misdirected tantrums have worked rather well and now people are terrified to take over that lease. You&#039;ve got what you fought so hard for: an indefinitely empty storefront to maintain the &#039;character&#039; of this neighborhood that you probably moved to less than 10 years go and where you probably won&#039;t stick around for another 10.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re logic hinges on the fallacy that 16th and Guerrero is an unpopular and inexpensive place to open a business. That rent would have been raised regardless, just like it has been raised on every business on that block (ask around). </p>
<p>No one will touch it with a 10-foot pole now, not because they don&#8217;t want to pay the rent but because of the clusterfuck that happened with Jack Spade. Your misdirected tantrums have worked rather well and now people are terrified to take over that lease. You&#8217;ve got what you fought so hard for: an indefinitely empty storefront to maintain the &#8216;character&#8217; of this neighborhood that you probably moved to less than 10 years go and where you probably won&#8217;t stick around for another 10.</p>
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		<title>By: Leary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2015 18:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;how do you plan to pay for all of this ‘affordable’ housing? &quot;

EXACTLY.

Until you have an actual answer to this - and yelling &quot;TAX TECH!&quot; is not, by itself, an answer - your claims that you &quot;just want affordable housing built instead&quot; are completely meaningless. Almost all the only BMR housing being built in the Mission these days is a byproduct of the market-rate housing you hate so much.

PRESENT A REAL, WORKABLE PLAN.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;how do you plan to pay for all of this ‘affordable’ housing? &#8221;</p>
<p>EXACTLY.</p>
<p>Until you have an actual answer to this &#8211; and yelling &#8220;TAX TECH!&#8221; is not, by itself, an answer &#8211; your claims that you &#8220;just want affordable housing built instead&#8221; are completely meaningless. Almost all the only BMR housing being built in the Mission these days is a byproduct of the market-rate housing you hate so much.</p>
<p>PRESENT A REAL, WORKABLE PLAN.</p>
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		<title>By: Leary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2015 18:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;NO ONE, repeat NO ONE, is talking about stopping the building of housing.&quot;

Except for the people that are talking about stopping the building of housing, you mean? What do you think Campos is talking about when he proposes a moratorium on new market rate construction in the Mission, exactly?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;NO ONE, repeat NO ONE, is talking about stopping the building of housing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Except for the people that are talking about stopping the building of housing, you mean? What do you think Campos is talking about when he proposes a moratorium on new market rate construction in the Mission, exactly?</p>
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		<title>By: jd</title>
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		<dc:creator>jd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2015 04:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those are some pretty solid points. Well put.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are some pretty solid points. Well put.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2015 03:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dude, you ain&#039;t makin&#039; a lick of sense. 

Adobe was paying their rent. Every month. On Time. Every year.

Then the landlord wanted to raise the rent. That sucked. But Adobe and a ton of folks from the community pulled together, raised a bunch of money, and reorganized into a collective and found a way to the pay the higher rent. Then the landlord was like, &quot;oh shit,&quot; and then hell raised the rent AGAIN, so that Adobe would have to leave for Jack Spade. 

Then Jack Spade was stopped by the community and the place sat empty. AND NO ONE ELSE  BID ON THAT PLACE for a very long time and it sits empty. 

You say, &quot;if Jack Spade hadn’t put a bid on that retail space, someone else would have.&quot; ?? Well than why hasn&#039;t someone else done that since? Like I said, you ain&#039;t making sense.

Abobe would still be there and there would be no empty storefront if they hadn&#039;t got pushed out for the sake of a shitty billion-dollar corporate retailer, who incidentally would have closed their store this week regardless, leaving-you guess it--an empty storefront.

Again, it it weren&#039;t for Jack Spade plotting with a greedy landlord, Adobe would still be there, serving the community and making our neighborhood a better fucking place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, you ain&#8217;t makin&#8217; a lick of sense. </p>
<p>Adobe was paying their rent. Every month. On Time. Every year.</p>
<p>Then the landlord wanted to raise the rent. That sucked. But Adobe and a ton of folks from the community pulled together, raised a bunch of money, and reorganized into a collective and found a way to the pay the higher rent. Then the landlord was like, &#8220;oh shit,&#8221; and then hell raised the rent AGAIN, so that Adobe would have to leave for Jack Spade. </p>
<p>Then Jack Spade was stopped by the community and the place sat empty. AND NO ONE ELSE  BID ON THAT PLACE for a very long time and it sits empty. </p>
<p>You say, &#8220;if Jack Spade hadn’t put a bid on that retail space, someone else would have.&#8221; ?? Well than why hasn&#8217;t someone else done that since? Like I said, you ain&#8217;t making sense.</p>
<p>Abobe would still be there and there would be no empty storefront if they hadn&#8217;t got pushed out for the sake of a shitty billion-dollar corporate retailer, who incidentally would have closed their store this week regardless, leaving-you guess it&#8211;an empty storefront.</p>
<p>Again, it it weren&#8217;t for Jack Spade plotting with a greedy landlord, Adobe would still be there, serving the community and making our neighborhood a better fucking place.</p>
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		<title>By: whateversville</title>
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		<dc:creator>whateversville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2015 01:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Andy -- A hypothetical for you. Say the Plaza16 people get their demand that 16th and Mission turns into a 100% affordable project. They find some miraculous way to finance the same number of affordable units they&#039;re building now--90 below market, 41 for middle-income earners. Nobody gets evicted to build the thing. Everyone wins, right?

Why is that somehow better than doing all those things, AND building 290 apartments for rich people to live in, so they have somewhere to live instead of trying to evict you, me, and everyone else?

And by the way:
&quot;It’s basically EVERYONE who has lived in this neighborhood for more than two years.&quot;
Seven years here. Am I allowed to have this opinion?

&quot;You self-righteous, ignorant,&quot;
Ouch.

&quot;libertarian, free-marketers&quot;
Ha. No.

&quot;know nothing and care nothing about this neighborhood, this city’s history&quot;
I do, actually. I think that the city is shitting itself by throwing a tantrum about new residents instead of finding a way to absorb those new residents. Doing nothing IS displacing people. 

&quot;it’s real culture,&quot;
Enlighten us.

&quot;and you are willfully ignorant about how the housing economy works in SF.&quot;
San Francisco is a city where people protest modest housing developments that are entirely within the zoning code for being too large, too tall, and not having enough parking spaces. After long enough, we end up in the situation we&#039;re in now, where we&#039;ve built 1 apartment for every 10 new residents in the last five years, and prices are fucking insane. Instead of recognizing a crisis and being kind-hearted people, willing to tolerate a building with six stories instead of four if it means more places for their neighbors to live, residents continue to object to every single construction project with the same tired bullshit about shadows, parking, and &#039;neighborhood character&#039;, while all the actual character of their neighborhood--y&#039;know, their neighbors--moves to Oakland.

Is that how it works, or did I miss something?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andy &#8212; A hypothetical for you. Say the Plaza16 people get their demand that 16th and Mission turns into a 100% affordable project. They find some miraculous way to finance the same number of affordable units they&#8217;re building now&#8211;90 below market, 41 for middle-income earners. Nobody gets evicted to build the thing. Everyone wins, right?</p>
<p>Why is that somehow better than doing all those things, AND building 290 apartments for rich people to live in, so they have somewhere to live instead of trying to evict you, me, and everyone else?</p>
<p>And by the way:<br />
&#8220;It’s basically EVERYONE who has lived in this neighborhood for more than two years.&#8221;<br />
Seven years here. Am I allowed to have this opinion?</p>
<p>&#8220;You self-righteous, ignorant,&#8221;<br />
Ouch.</p>
<p>&#8220;libertarian, free-marketers&#8221;<br />
Ha. No.</p>
<p>&#8220;know nothing and care nothing about this neighborhood, this city’s history&#8221;<br />
I do, actually. I think that the city is shitting itself by throwing a tantrum about new residents instead of finding a way to absorb those new residents. Doing nothing IS displacing people. </p>
<p>&#8220;it’s real culture,&#8221;<br />
Enlighten us.</p>
<p>&#8220;and you are willfully ignorant about how the housing economy works in SF.&#8221;<br />
San Francisco is a city where people protest modest housing developments that are entirely within the zoning code for being too large, too tall, and not having enough parking spaces. After long enough, we end up in the situation we&#8217;re in now, where we&#8217;ve built 1 apartment for every 10 new residents in the last five years, and prices are fucking insane. Instead of recognizing a crisis and being kind-hearted people, willing to tolerate a building with six stories instead of four if it means more places for their neighbors to live, residents continue to object to every single construction project with the same tired bullshit about shadows, parking, and &#8216;neighborhood character&#8217;, while all the actual character of their neighborhood&#8211;y&#8217;know, their neighbors&#8211;moves to Oakland.</p>
<p>Is that how it works, or did I miss something?</p>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2015 21:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hear, Hear.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear, Hear.</p>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2015 21:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andy: Well said.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy: Well said.</p>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herr Doktor Professor Deth Vegetable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2015 21:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep, it is better than a chainstore.  Agreed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, it is better than a chainstore.  Agreed.</p>
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		<title>By: YAY ACTIVISTS!</title>
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		<dc:creator>YAY ACTIVISTS!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2015 20:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[how do you plan to pay for all of this &#039;affordable&#039; housing? 

while you&#039;re trying to figure that out watch the wealthy continue to grab up all of the existing housing. you guys never learn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how do you plan to pay for all of this &#8216;affordable&#8217; housing? </p>
<p>while you&#8217;re trying to figure that out watch the wealthy continue to grab up all of the existing housing. you guys never learn.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2015 19:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Adobe is great, but everyone involved knew that space couldn&#039;t last forever. They don&#039;t make any money, they barely even keep the books . . . spaces like it have been popping up and shutting down all over the city for many years before heroic blog commentators started gentrifying the mission in the name of putting an end to gentrification.  Adobe still exists on 24th st and if Jack Spade hadn&#039;t put a bid on that retail space, someone else would have.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adobe is great, but everyone involved knew that space couldn&#8217;t last forever. They don&#8217;t make any money, they barely even keep the books . . . spaces like it have been popping up and shutting down all over the city for many years before heroic blog commentators started gentrifying the mission in the name of putting an end to gentrification.  Adobe still exists on 24th st and if Jack Spade hadn&#8217;t put a bid on that retail space, someone else would have.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2015 19:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s what happens to the market rate towers you so badly want built.

http://www.newsweek.com/hidden-costs-ghost-apartments-322264#.VTFcQReS6tI.facebook]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what happens to the market rate towers you so badly want built.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newsweek.com/hidden-costs-ghost-apartments-322264#.VTFcQReS6tI.facebook" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsweek.com/hidden-costs-ghost-apartments-322264#.VTFcQReS6tI.facebook</a></p>
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		<title>By: Emory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2015 19:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh the irony. I hope I kept my t-shirt, it&#039;ll be more ironic and silly than the first time I wore it.
http://www.missionmission.org/2013/10/02/another-perspective-on-the-jack-spade-issue/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh the irony. I hope I kept my t-shirt, it&#8217;ll be more ironic and silly than the first time I wore it.<br />
<a href="http://www.missionmission.org/2013/10/02/another-perspective-on-the-jack-spade-issue/" rel="nofollow">http://www.missionmission.org/2013/10/02/another-perspective-on-the-jack-spade-issue/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2015 18:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NO ONE, repeat NO ONE, is talking about stopping the building of housing. BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING. There is a TON of market-rate housing recently built and in the pipeline for the Mission. In fact, with housing built and currently approved and in the pipeline--the Eastern Neighborhoods Plan for housing goals for the year 2020 have ALREADY been met. The Mission and the city has a glut of market-rate/luxury-priced housing. We need affordable housing. It&#039;s common-sense.

People don&#039;t even actually live in very big percentage of the new market-rate/luxury condos being built. Tons of these units are sitting vacant 90% or more of the time as vacation properties or investment properties. We need affordable housing, not more market rate that only a tiny percentage of SFers can afford or use for parking their excess cash.

And it&#039;s not just &quot;local activists&quot; who are saying we have enough market-rate housing being built in the Mission. It&#039;s basically EVERYONE who has lived in this neighborhood for more than two years. You self-righteous, ignorant, libertarian, free-marketers know nothing and care nothing about this neighborhood, this city&#039;s history, it&#039;s real culture, and you are willfully ignorant about how the housing economy works in SF.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NO ONE, repeat NO ONE, is talking about stopping the building of housing. BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING. There is a TON of market-rate housing recently built and in the pipeline for the Mission. In fact, with housing built and currently approved and in the pipeline&#8211;the Eastern Neighborhoods Plan for housing goals for the year 2020 have ALREADY been met. The Mission and the city has a glut of market-rate/luxury-priced housing. We need affordable housing. It&#8217;s common-sense.</p>
<p>People don&#8217;t even actually live in very big percentage of the new market-rate/luxury condos being built. Tons of these units are sitting vacant 90% or more of the time as vacation properties or investment properties. We need affordable housing, not more market rate that only a tiny percentage of SFers can afford or use for parking their excess cash.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s not just &#8220;local activists&#8221; who are saying we have enough market-rate housing being built in the Mission. It&#8217;s basically EVERYONE who has lived in this neighborhood for more than two years. You self-righteous, ignorant, libertarian, free-marketers know nothing and care nothing about this neighborhood, this city&#8217;s history, it&#8217;s real culture, and you are willfully ignorant about how the housing economy works in SF.</p>
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