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	<title>Comments on: I guess they seriously want to raze an entire block (at 19th and Bryant) to make room for condos</title>
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		<title>By: Flemertown</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2015/06/03/i-guess-they-seriously-want-to-raze-an-entire-block-at-19th-and-bryant-to-make-room-for-condos/#comment-107350</link>
		<dc:creator>Flemertown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2015 20:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[from Planning. SF Property Info site
dated March 19 2015
2000-2070 Bryant Street (4022/001, 002, 021); INTERDEPARTMENTAL Project Review meeting to discuss the following: the project is located within a seismic hazard and liquefaction zone. An interdepartmental project review is required prior to a public hearing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from Planning. SF Property Info site<br />
dated March 19 2015<br />
2000-2070 Bryant Street (4022/001, 002, 021); INTERDEPARTMENTAL Project Review meeting to discuss the following: the project is located within a seismic hazard and liquefaction zone. An interdepartmental project review is required prior to a public hearing.</p>
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		<title>By: emilie</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2015/06/03/i-guess-they-seriously-want-to-raze-an-entire-block-at-19th-and-bryant-to-make-room-for-condos/#comment-107228</link>
		<dc:creator>emilie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2015 23:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh god I fear for the future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh god I fear for the future.</p>
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		<title>By: emilie</title>
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		<dc:creator>emilie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2015 23:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Raze&quot; breh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Raze&#8221; breh.</p>
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		<title>By: emilie</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2015/06/03/i-guess-they-seriously-want-to-raze-an-entire-block-at-19th-and-bryant-to-make-room-for-condos/#comment-107226</link>
		<dc:creator>emilie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2015 23:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rad bait bruh. That should get him/her going if they remember to revisit this mess.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rad bait bruh. That should get him/her going if they remember to revisit this mess.</p>
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		<title>By: Backtotheburbs</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2015/06/03/i-guess-they-seriously-want-to-raze-an-entire-block-at-19th-and-bryant-to-make-room-for-condos/#comment-107219</link>
		<dc:creator>Backtotheburbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2015 16:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And a good number of people here will be investors/founders in those waves outside the Bay Area ... Which likely means more luxury condos and more tech mansions. More overbidding. More luxury cars. More cocktail bars and unhealthy expensive food ... And fewer grocery stores, laundries, bodegas, bookstores, galleries.

Did anyone see the new tech-mansion on Hampshire on the way to slow club? Used to be a modest two unit building. Now expanded in all dimensions, the window openings are the size of the old walls... The tallest residential building on the block. They will look down at us from their full floor roof deck. Vene vidi vici!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And a good number of people here will be investors/founders in those waves outside the Bay Area &#8230; Which likely means more luxury condos and more tech mansions. More overbidding. More luxury cars. More cocktail bars and unhealthy expensive food &#8230; And fewer grocery stores, laundries, bodegas, bookstores, galleries.</p>
<p>Did anyone see the new tech-mansion on Hampshire on the way to slow club? Used to be a modest two unit building. Now expanded in all dimensions, the window openings are the size of the old walls&#8230; The tallest residential building on the block. They will look down at us from their full floor roof deck. Vene vidi vici!</p>
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		<title>By: Backtotheburbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Backtotheburbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2015 16:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey buddy I like your thinking butbwe&#039;ve already had multiple booms and busts here and unfortunately your grand principle didn&#039;t materialize.

Tech boom is already worldwide. More and more people have phones. More and more people use Internet. Facebook wants to give free internet to the world with access to ... Facebook.

It&#039;s going to take a massive hit to the global economy for anything to budge. You&#039;re better off asking gooappbook for housing ...

Oddly enough, we are likely better off for the moment with no new luxury housing in the short term since that will naturally limit companies growth here. Seven. Supervisors understand this. Transportation and housing prices are already doing that to an extent. Yes, evictions and intimidation suck, but they are a slow trickle and maybe buyouts aren&#039;t so bad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey buddy I like your thinking butbwe&#8217;ve already had multiple booms and busts here and unfortunately your grand principle didn&#8217;t materialize.</p>
<p>Tech boom is already worldwide. More and more people have phones. More and more people use Internet. Facebook wants to give free internet to the world with access to &#8230; Facebook.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s going to take a massive hit to the global economy for anything to budge. You&#8217;re better off asking gooappbook for housing &#8230;</p>
<p>Oddly enough, we are likely better off for the moment with no new luxury housing in the short term since that will naturally limit companies growth here. Seven. Supervisors understand this. Transportation and housing prices are already doing that to an extent. Yes, evictions and intimidation suck, but they are a slow trickle and maybe buyouts aren&#8217;t so bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Backtotheburbs</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2015/06/03/i-guess-they-seriously-want-to-raze-an-entire-block-at-19th-and-bryant-to-make-room-for-condos/#comment-107216</link>
		<dc:creator>Backtotheburbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2015 16:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, take a walk around on a weekday 9-5ish.

There are lots more people working here than just a few years ago. Where, I don&#039;t really know but it feels like every little space has bros streaming out of it at key times  (coffee, lunch, I guess). Parking is long gone and you&#039;re much more likely to get slammed by a dbag slowly taking the corner without stopping or signaling, kind of like a zombie looking for parking.

There&#039;s no new open space or parks. There are a lot of new coffee (5$) and sandwich (14$) catering to the office lunch crowd.

What&#039;s most striking is how the profile of cars changes from the 9-5 window vs rest of the day. Non work hours you&#039;re likely to see a bunch of the same cars as in the 2000 photo ...

I believe this area is called Sub-Mission ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, take a walk around on a weekday 9-5ish.</p>
<p>There are lots more people working here than just a few years ago. Where, I don&#8217;t really know but it feels like every little space has bros streaming out of it at key times  (coffee, lunch, I guess). Parking is long gone and you&#8217;re much more likely to get slammed by a dbag slowly taking the corner without stopping or signaling, kind of like a zombie looking for parking.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no new open space or parks. There are a lot of new coffee (5$) and sandwich (14$) catering to the office lunch crowd.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s most striking is how the profile of cars changes from the 9-5 window vs rest of the day. Non work hours you&#8217;re likely to see a bunch of the same cars as in the 2000 photo &#8230;</p>
<p>I believe this area is called Sub-Mission &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TBone McGruff</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2015/06/03/i-guess-they-seriously-want-to-raze-an-entire-block-at-19th-and-bryant-to-make-room-for-condos/#comment-107173</link>
		<dc:creator>TBone McGruff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2015 19:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is the hope - that we can hermit crab right into these refurbished locations.

The other scenario though, is that the growing international 1% gobbles up the property as their party pads.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is the hope &#8211; that we can hermit crab right into these refurbished locations.</p>
<p>The other scenario though, is that the growing international 1% gobbles up the property as their party pads.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2015 18:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Common sense is now an app.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Common sense is now an app.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2015/06/03/i-guess-they-seriously-want-to-raze-an-entire-block-at-19th-and-bryant-to-make-room-for-condos/#comment-107171</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2015 18:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s cool that you read that word on a blog or something, doesn&#039;t really apply here because there are not an unlimited number of people trying to live here. You can get access to free intro to microeconomics courses on Learning Path if you&#039;re interested in learning more about how it works.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s cool that you read that word on a blog or something, doesn&#8217;t really apply here because there are not an unlimited number of people trying to live here. You can get access to free intro to microeconomics courses on Learning Path if you&#8217;re interested in learning more about how it works.</p>
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		<title>By: troll</title>
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		<dc:creator>troll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2015 18:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nah, the more tech grows across the country, the more it&#039;s financial epicenter will grow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, the more tech grows across the country, the more it&#8217;s financial epicenter will grow.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2015/06/03/i-guess-they-seriously-want-to-raze-an-entire-block-at-19th-and-bryant-to-make-room-for-condos/#comment-107168</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2015 16:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People should stop being so sensitive to stuff like this.  Todays luxury living is the next downturns artist residences.  The tech boom is concentrated in SF right now, but in 5-10 years Austin, Seattle, Boston, probably even Portland will all become bigger players.  Once the industry spreads out a bit and extremely high salaried workers can move to different metros, I think even without a downturn rents will have to lower in SF.  When that happens everyone will be glad we built up when it was financially reasonable to do so]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People should stop being so sensitive to stuff like this.  Todays luxury living is the next downturns artist residences.  The tech boom is concentrated in SF right now, but in 5-10 years Austin, Seattle, Boston, probably even Portland will all become bigger players.  Once the industry spreads out a bit and extremely high salaried workers can move to different metros, I think even without a downturn rents will have to lower in SF.  When that happens everyone will be glad we built up when it was financially reasonable to do so</p>
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		<title>By: Blexxxxch</title>
		<link>http://www.missionmission.org/2015/06/03/i-guess-they-seriously-want-to-raze-an-entire-block-at-19th-and-bryant-to-make-room-for-condos/#comment-107167</link>
		<dc:creator>Blexxxxch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2015 16:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Techies]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Techies</p>
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		<title>By: spike</title>
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		<dc:creator>spike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2015 14:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the A.C.T. scene and prop shop, 38 yrs at the Mission location, will be outsourced and MADE IN CANADA. cell space/inner mission will be destroyed. Tortilla a flats already closed. 9 car repair shop employees out of work (30 yrs st that location.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the A.C.T. scene and prop shop, 38 yrs at the Mission location, will be outsourced and MADE IN CANADA. cell space/inner mission will be destroyed. Tortilla a flats already closed. 9 car repair shop employees out of work (30 yrs st that location.)</p>
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		<title>By: corner soul</title>
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		<dc:creator>corner soul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2015 07:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think perhaps they&#039;re trying to argue &#039;supply and demand&#039; (i.e. build more housing &gt; landlords will have more competition &gt; rents will drop)?

But @Hazbeen brings up a good point. SF is tiny and the local economy is bananas. Perhaps demand is just too insatiable for any of this to really make a dent (especially when you consider the amount of time and red tape involved with development in this day and age.)

It&#039;s certainly debatable... but I just wonder how many historic blocks you can raze for high-rises and McCondos before you start to destroy what makes San Francisco San Francisco?

My two cents: SF is just a victim of its own success. It&#039;s pretty much illegal in most of America to build charming urban neighborhoods like we used to before WWII, so the few that remain are gentrifying to the extreme. Fixing the zoning in other cities (especially some of SF&#039;s neighbors) to absorb urban demand seems like a better target than blaming &quot;brogrammers&quot; or &quot;hipsters&quot; for moving to desirable neighborhoods (can you really blame them?)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think perhaps they&#8217;re trying to argue &#8216;supply and demand&#8217; (i.e. build more housing &gt; landlords will have more competition &gt; rents will drop)?</p>
<p>But @Hazbeen brings up a good point. SF is tiny and the local economy is bananas. Perhaps demand is just too insatiable for any of this to really make a dent (especially when you consider the amount of time and red tape involved with development in this day and age.)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s certainly debatable&#8230; but I just wonder how many historic blocks you can raze for high-rises and McCondos before you start to destroy what makes San Francisco San Francisco?</p>
<p>My two cents: SF is just a victim of its own success. It&#8217;s pretty much illegal in most of America to build charming urban neighborhoods like we used to before WWII, so the few that remain are gentrifying to the extreme. Fixing the zoning in other cities (especially some of SF&#8217;s neighbors) to absorb urban demand seems like a better target than blaming &#8220;brogrammers&#8221; or &#8220;hipsters&#8221; for moving to desirable neighborhoods (can you really blame them?)</p>
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