In the comments section of our Facebook post about the blog “Man Lines”, neighbor Spike K. posted the above photo and the following:
the next fight, and without the moratorium its crucial to come and protest: on June 18th, the planning commission will hear the developers request for a demolition permit to raze the entire block of Bryant st, between 18th and 19th st, the former Cell Space, Tortilla Flats, the A.C.T. prop and scene shop losing 50 union jobs, the auto repair shop that’s been there for decades, losing 9 blue collar jobs, and a local landscaping firm. come to the mtg 6/18 at 12 noon at city hall, room 400, and say no to this request to destroy our neighborhood and put up 200+ luxury homes.
This sounds very familiar. Just a couple blocks away, an artist / light-industry building razed to make way for condos. There were protests at the Board of Supervisors which won some concessions from the developers (a little public open space).
Then the dot-com bust happened. Construction stalled and the property spent years as a giant hole in the ground. When construction resumes, the community concessions had vanished.
http://www.uncanny.net/~wetzel/bryantsquare.htm
The article linked here from 2000 reads almost exactly as if it was written today. The poster’s point about holding developers to their promises is well taken, but to me it underscores the resiliency of the neighborhood despite the doom-and-gloom predictions of 15 years ago.
That was one giant hole. Ugh.
Nice try landlords trying to preserve your property values.
^^^^ Hey look, mom! I’m a 24-year-old free-market enthusiast without any understanding of inelasticity! PS. Your app sucks.
^^^ And I’m a middle-aged loser trapped in the past.
He’s right though. Your app really does suck.
It’s cool that you read that word on a blog or something, doesn’t really apply here because there are not an unlimited number of people trying to live here. You can get access to free intro to microeconomics courses on Learning Path if you’re interested in learning more about how it works.
Rad bait bruh. That should get him/her going if they remember to revisit this mess.
Explain the property values comment please
I think perhaps they’re trying to argue ‘supply and demand’ (i.e. build more housing > landlords will have more competition > rents will drop)?
But @Hazbeen brings up a good point. SF is tiny and the local economy is bananas. Perhaps demand is just too insatiable for any of this to really make a dent (especially when you consider the amount of time and red tape involved with development in this day and age.)
It’s certainly debatable… but I just wonder how many historic blocks you can raze for high-rises and McCondos before you start to destroy what makes San Francisco San Francisco?
My two cents: SF is just a victim of its own success. It’s pretty much illegal in most of America to build charming urban neighborhoods like we used to before WWII, so the few that remain are gentrifying to the extreme. Fixing the zoning in other cities (especially some of SF’s neighbors) to absorb urban demand seems like a better target than blaming “brogrammers” or “hipsters” for moving to desirable neighborhoods (can you really blame them?)
They should raise it, and build a 40 story building with no parking in its place, at least 10 floors of affordable housing
“Raze” breh.
This 276 unit housing development will provide 44 on-site affordable units.
YAY!
Let’s be realistic — unemployment is the lowest it’s been in decades in the Bay Area. The people affected by this aren’t in any real trouble.
Really, the people at the restaurant that closed? The repair shop? The people from ACT that as union members will be able to find work when gigs are available at the union hall……hw are they all not affected?
Oh and your app sucks
Common sense is now an app.
So ACT is not going to have a scene shop anymore? How are they going to stage their plays?
ACT controls plenty of other real estate…
My guess is those “40 union jobs” will be at the location of the scene shop that ACT requires to stage plays (also that is the point of the stagehand union)
excuse me “50 union jobs”
They are shopping it out to a private NON union company,
That 2000 article is spot on;
“In reality this is an auto-centric suburban office park being injected into the midst of one of the city’s most pedestrian-oriented neighborhoods.”
WHAT does that even mean??
Well, take a walk around on a weekday 9-5ish.
There are lots more people working here than just a few years ago. Where, I don’t really know but it feels like every little space has bros streaming out of it at key times (coffee, lunch, I guess). Parking is long gone and you’re much more likely to get slammed by a dbag slowly taking the corner without stopping or signaling, kind of like a zombie looking for parking.
There’s no new open space or parks. There are a lot of new coffee (5$) and sandwich (14$) catering to the office lunch crowd.
What’s most striking is how the profile of cars changes from the 9-5 window vs rest of the day. Non work hours you’re likely to see a bunch of the same cars as in the 2000 photo …
I believe this area is called Sub-Mission …
Oh god I fear for the future.
the A.C.T. scene and prop shop, 38 yrs at the Mission location, will be outsourced and MADE IN CANADA. cell space/inner mission will be destroyed. Tortilla a flats already closed. 9 car repair shop employees out of work (30 yrs st that location.)
Techies
People should stop being so sensitive to stuff like this. Todays luxury living is the next downturns artist residences. The tech boom is concentrated in SF right now, but in 5-10 years Austin, Seattle, Boston, probably even Portland will all become bigger players. Once the industry spreads out a bit and extremely high salaried workers can move to different metros, I think even without a downturn rents will have to lower in SF. When that happens everyone will be glad we built up when it was financially reasonable to do so
Nah, the more tech grows across the country, the more it’s financial epicenter will grow.
And a good number of people here will be investors/founders in those waves outside the Bay Area … Which likely means more luxury condos and more tech mansions. More overbidding. More luxury cars. More cocktail bars and unhealthy expensive food … And fewer grocery stores, laundries, bodegas, bookstores, galleries.
Did anyone see the new tech-mansion on Hampshire on the way to slow club? Used to be a modest two unit building. Now expanded in all dimensions, the window openings are the size of the old walls… The tallest residential building on the block. They will look down at us from their full floor roof deck. Vene vidi vici!
That is the hope – that we can hermit crab right into these refurbished locations.
The other scenario though, is that the growing international 1% gobbles up the property as their party pads.
Hey buddy I like your thinking butbwe’ve already had multiple booms and busts here and unfortunately your grand principle didn’t materialize.
Tech boom is already worldwide. More and more people have phones. More and more people use Internet. Facebook wants to give free internet to the world with access to … Facebook.
It’s going to take a massive hit to the global economy for anything to budge. You’re better off asking gooappbook for housing …
Oddly enough, we are likely better off for the moment with no new luxury housing in the short term since that will naturally limit companies growth here. Seven. Supervisors understand this. Transportation and housing prices are already doing that to an extent. Yes, evictions and intimidation suck, but they are a slow trickle and maybe buyouts aren’t so bad.
from Planning. SF Property Info site
dated March 19 2015
2000-2070 Bryant Street (4022/001, 002, 021); INTERDEPARTMENTAL Project Review meeting to discuss the following: the project is located within a seismic hazard and liquefaction zone. An interdepartmental project review is required prior to a public hearing.