In Missed Connections last night, a post called mission girls appeared. It is a five-point examination of everything that’s wrong with Mission girls. Here’s part of it:
can only achieve sexual pleasure through degradation. look, i’m happy if you want me to call you a slut, pull your hair and slap you in the face while fucking you SOMETIMES. i’d like a self-respecting, less violent fuck periodically. (this is why you have more one night stands than relationships and why you only end up in relationships with assholes, in case you were wondering.)
A few hours later, a post called mission boys popped up. Written by the same person? Written as a response? You be the judge:
can only achieve sexual pleasure through degrading other people. look, i’m happy if you want to call me a slut, pull my hair and slap me in the face while fucking SOMETIMES. i’d like a self-respecting, less violent fuck periodically. (this is why you have more one night stands than relationships and why you only end up in relationships with bitches, in case you were wondering.)
Aww. Is it all true? The sex stuff? The style stuff? The taste stuff?
We’ll have the full posts after the jump in case they disappear…
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mission girls – m4w – 25 (mission district)
Date: 2010-12-09, 6:54PM PST
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i have lived here for a year now and come to the solemn conclusion that all of you are vapid, carbon-copy replicants of each other. i would try dating someone who lives in my neighborhood, but you all either:
1. are obsessed with feigned nostalgia for a decade you didn’t live through (i’m looking at you flowerchild hippies and soul party crew).
2. have no concept of taste — ‘taste’, for you, is something you merely inherit through reading blogs and trends, not the ability to discern quality. this is, i think, the most parsimonious explanation of how the xx, an overwhelmingly mediocre band, ever got popular. or girl talk.
3. blindly fetishize everything european. i think this is in perfectly ironic parallel with european hipsters… who love American things like classic rock, metal, McDonald’s, etc.
4. can only achieve sexual pleasure through degradation. look, i’m happy if you want me to call you a slut, pull your hair and slap you in the face while fucking you SOMETIMES. i’d like a self-respecting, less violent fuck periodically. (this is why you have more one night stands than relationships and why you only end up in relationships with assholes, in case you were wondering.)
5. love david sedaris, david foster wallace and will try to get me to read gravity’s rainbow, like 20 other girls i’ve met with the same shitty taste in literature as you…
you’re like the homogenized counter-culture alternative to marina girls… except, you know, they have yuppy corporate marketing jobs and probably finished college, instead of aimlessly drifting through their 20′s without any prospect of a career or acquiring any tangible skills beyond weaving sweaters, cooking vegan food and making itunes playlists.
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mission boys – w4m – 25 (mission district)
Date: 2010-12-09, 9:12PM PST
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i have lived here for a year now and come to the solemn conclusion that all of you are vapid, carbon-copy replicants of each other. i would try dating someone who lives in my neighborhood, but you all either:
1. are obsessed with feigned nostalgia for a decade you didn’t live through (i’m looking at you neon 80s and neo-grunge rockers).
2. have no concept of taste — ‘taste’, for you, is something you merely inherit through reading blogs and trends, not the ability to discern quality. this is, i think, the most parsimonious explanation of how thee oh sees, an overwhelmingly mediocre band, ever got popular. or girls.
3. blindly fetishize everything “street.” i think this is in perfectly ironic parallel with poor people… who love bourgeoisie things like money, iPhones, cocaine, etc.
4. can only achieve sexual pleasure through degrading other people. look, i’m happy if you want to call me a slut, pull my hair and slap me in the face while fucking SOMETIMES. i’d like a self-respecting, less violent fuck periodically. (this is why you have more one night stands than relationships and why you only end up in relationships with bitches, in case you were wondering.)
5. love the smiths, the misfits and will try to get me to listen to “Blonde on Blonde”, like 20 other boys i’ve met with the same shitty taste in music as you…
6. move to this city and then hate on everything about it because you utterly lack social skills, the ability to value people on a personal level and act like you’re better than the people you’ve voluntarily chosen to live among. Get a personality or GTFOH. doesn’t really seem like you’re contributing to society. whatsoever. is it because your mother told you you were special and you were the idiot who believed her? or because she didn’t tell you you were special & now you’re overcompensating?
you’re like the homogenized counter-culture alternative to bros… except, you know, they have yuppy corporate marketing jobs and probably finished college, instead of aimlessly drifting through their 20′s without any prospect of a career or acquiring any tangible skills beyond skateboarding, shitty graffiti and making itunes playlists.
amiright?
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There is a “Carina’s photos only” policy on this blog now.
I wish I took pictures like Carina, but I don’t, so.
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Those gave me a chuckle.
I feel out of place in the Mission partly because I am the most musically ignorant person I know. Hell, I feel out of place *anywhere* when bands are brought into conversation. The hipsters win in this case, snobby or not.
Most “mission” people are also musically ignorant.
Of course some of these things are true and others not. If you don’t like people who all think the same, maybe you should stop going after girls/boys that all dress the same?
look, its incredibly dickish to be snobby about music. its a blessing to be up on a lot of tastemaking stuff before it hits.
The bullshit attitude conveyed in #4 is exactly why I went for so long resigning myself to meaningless casual sex. I assumed that if I admitted my sexual proclivities to any guy I actually cared about, that he’d just assume I “had issues” and leave me; therefore I only could have the sex I physically enjoyed with dudes whose opinions didn’t matter to me, ie. shitty emotionless hookups.
Whoever wrote this shit needs to grow the fuck up. There is NOTHING WRONG with enjoying rough sex. You can be a perfectly happy, well adjusted person in a committed loving relationship and still like to be slapped and choked out. This backwards sexually repressive attitude is exactly why so many people feel as though they can’t have real relationships and end up sleeping around. Relationships are built on trust and it’s a lot more difficult to trust someone when judgments like this are being aired left and right.
Also, DFW was never my cup of tea but I can say objectively that he is far from a shitty writer.
Call me?
Bravo!
I don’t think the person who wrote those posts is actually in a relationship.
Peeps who judge your sexual preferences aren’t worth your time anyways.
Hey AnonFem,
I think your totally right. I’ve been in more relationships where some kinky stuff was common in our sex-play than not. This doesn’t mean that we didn’t cuddle, or also have tender make out sex. I think one problem that people have (and by people I mean repressed, judgemental jerks) is that they don’t understand that just because you want to be hit sometimes doesn’t mean that thats what you always want to do. Sex in a relationship should be something that changes as cirumstances, moods, desires, etc. A good sex life should have variety.
Anyways, I’d suggest that you just be confidently out front with people you want to be in relationships with. Confidence and fun are great turn ons and a healthy appreciation for your own appetites will make men less likely to be scared.
I would argue that the mission has a million tiny little micro scenes that are fucking impossible to penetrate. I just gave up. I would be amazed if I met a girl that read any DFW or Sedaris. FOOL, DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO FIND A WOMAN THAT READS BOOKS? WOMEN DONT READ BOOKS.
Gross generalization^^^ I know, but cotdamn thats some bitter shit to be MAD that a woman would read a book. I’m lucky if the girl I’m trying to get to know, knows how to fucking boil a fucking pot of fucking water.
It’s true, most mission snobs don’t actually read. They name drop a few authors while never picked up anyone like Bellow or even HST. Instead it’s a couple Russian writers combined with BEE/DFW/Pynchon and a feigned interest in Melville.
Every time I was out with the scene kids (you know, the guys who run 4barrell and the gaggle that follow them around) people’s minds were blown when I could actually teach them something about literature even though I didn’t have the hip coffee job, the skateboard or the scene look.
The more I’m around the scene, the more I believe that “the hip” merely took the symbols from a scene that was underground in the late 90s early 2000s (punk-lit culture) and re-appropriated them as cool at the end of the decade. Maybe it’s naive of me, but when I was 16, buying clothes from the thrift store because I didn’t care enough to buy fancy, cool, preppy shit, my cultural utopia wasn’t everyone repping like they didn’t care how they dressed and pretending to be interested in shit I was genuinely interested in just so they could seem “cool.”
This was the biggest disappointment about coming to SF. All of a sudden everyone looked like they were smart and alt and instead they just wanted to pose like they were.
easy, do you seriously hang out with the guys who run 4barrell? Can I come next time you guys go out? Ppplllleeeeeeaaaaassssseeee?? Will you teach me about literature too? I LOVE punk-lit culture!
Blonde on Blonde? C’mon you can’t hate on that.
Right? Who’s got the shitty taste here?
Gravity’s Rainbow is shitty literature?
Considering this Craigslist poster is 25 and has “lived here for a year,” they should be on their way to New York some time in 2011.
Certainly not shitty, but a case can be made for Pynchon being purposefully obtuse and that this is not always the best thing.
there are other places besides philz or st francis or the knockout, you know. “boo hoo hipsters are annoying! the mission is culturally barren!…” is anybody else sick of hearing this complaint over and over? i’m sure if this guy just tried something new he’d meet a girl he likes. and if everyone just calmed down about hating hipsters, since we’re all a bunch of hipsters anyway (sorry), we’d get along so much better.
100% agree. You don’t have to be part of the scene.
Yeah let’s leave DFW out of this. He was the best writer of his generation.
all of it’s stereotypes, but the sex thing is actually true.
I am a submissive Mission woman and delighted to realize I’m part of a trend! It’s like being a lesbian that drives a Subaru and then finding out later that hey, everyone knows lesbians drive Subarus, and you’re like, “No shit, I drive a subaru because I’m a lesbian I guess”.
Now when I look on Craigslist I have seen many a dominant hipster Mission male looking for a slut to abuse (consentually). So the trend extends itself to Mission males as well. IMHO people who live in the Mission probably bore easily and enjoy an element of danger. So there is an affinity for BDSM. So there you go.
God, I love a girl who likes to be dominated, called a whore, and doesn’t pretend to like futbol. But, she can’t live in the Mission. She can’t. Not now. Just not now.
Also, that man is gorgeous. Jesus.
Awesome. Cool. people hate the mission.
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