I always kiss MM’s ass. Both Kevin and Allan have firm bubble butts. So, you know.
Also, Valencia Street is worse than anything Pac Heights can throw at you. At least the latter knows what it is. Now go back to eating your salted caramel ice cream.
Brock, I’m eating the Lavender Honey ice cream – thats what all the Pac Height peeps are into now a days. Actually I’m wondering why you compare Valencia to Pac Heights when its still SOOOO Marina crowd.
And kissing MM’s ass is not a bad thing. They rightfully deserve it. Goooo Team Allan!
it’s also sad that bi-rite “creamery” doesn’t even make the ice cream they sell to lined up mustaches and black haired ninja girls. so terribly sad. soon the weather will be cold and i can walk the streets in tears alone.
Well, yes, they use Strauss organic “ice cream base” but their flavors are their own concoctions. Xanath on Valencia uses Strauss ice cream base as well.
No, they don’t just “add flavors”, they both use the Straus base and organic ingredients (vanilla, fruits, saffron, etc.) to make their house flavors. Flavors as saffron ginger or honey lavender can’t just be “added”…
Glad to see everyone’s back from the playa. While you were gone, Dolores Park was empty and taggers ran rampant. Oh, and this site continued to hit & miss.
That is so lame. Those bitches better not have tagged up my favorite mural, the one facing west with the faun girl. The little indentation there makes it one of my favorite spots for an alley quickie. Screw sprinklers, those douches need to get fucking curb stomped.
Curb stompin’?
that’s just the start, my friend.
silom6x :
“My solution is to tag/spray paint the perps if and when caught in the act. I think that might make them think twice. Another solution, to quote a very ancient law: If the hand offends thee, cut it off.”
irving1144:
“If i ever catch a tagger working in my neighborhood, I am going to crush his/her skull with my 36oz Louisville Slugger….SPLATT GOES THE WEASEL!”
dogeatcat :
“First offense, cut off one hand. I doubt there will ever be a second offense.”
If you agree with these and other violent fantasies, congratulations!
You have officially graduated.
What a short little trip it turned out to be, from commenting on missionmission to fitting right in with like minded fans of the poetic and fascist musings of C.W. Nevius at the Chronicle: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/comments/view?f=/c/a/2009/03/27/BAGL16O8RT.DTL&o=2
I think tagging is just awful. It’s just so friggin’ base and retarded. And even if I get it on some random wall, which I don’t, putting your tag on somebody’s goddam mural? Ridiculous. “Tim, what are you up to tonight?”
“Dunno, thought maybe I’d catch up with Johnny over at the park, then maybe a burrito, maybe stop off in that alley later and paint my name on the wall.”
“Your name on the wall? Why woul you do that?”
“I don’t know. I saw this one kid do it, and thought, ‘yeah, I like my name, and I”ll bet I could write it in some weird way, and then I could put it on a lot of places so that my name could be seen.’”
The cavemen got it. Taggers must be glad that most people don’t realize how glamorous tagging is and how great the kids feel doing it. It would be sad if it didn’t make Citizens want to beat, torture, and kill a kid for altering the surface color of a wall without permission. Put taggers through a wood chipper like Saddam’s kids did to their victims. It was sad they were killed before they could chip up more people. The chipped-up people never tagged much again. Maybe some of their victims had tagged their grammar school desk or something. Taggers are pretty much the worst things going on in the world it seems. It sad and makes my cry now.
a somewhat illiterate, and non-sensible response leaving more questions unanswered than answered…so here goes.
-were saddam’s children in the chipper, or were they putting the children of others in the chipper? -were they in the chipper for tagging?
and if taggers are as you illude “pretty much the worst (sic) thing going on in the world” for you right now, you might take the path of gratitude rather than snark.
me, for instance, i saw a man murdered last weekend. i would much rather have seen some shitty tag than seen blood running out of this mans ears.
please revisit your response and return with a sense-making response. because, that…there…above — is like reading a passage from Lewis Carrol’s “The Jaberwocky.” it just make no fucking sense.
Dear literate, Lewis Carrol(sic)-reading guy, It’s “allude”, and either “insensible” or “nonsensical”(your choice).
Sorry, but that’s difficult to resist.
But speaking of leaving questions unanswered:
“me, for instance, i saw a man murdered last weekend.”?
The connection to this discussion seems pretty tenuous, not to mention harsh for Sad Old Doe-Loser. I’m guessing you’ve also got a headline somewhere else about it.
Real blogs get trolled by real internet lurkers, so put away the Mr. “I saw the troll first!!!!” routine. Nobody cares about your sad little tumblr blog, either. Link us to it when you get your first comment, loudmouth.
Euroe is the queen douche of SF taggers. And your friend really should take off those dorky glasses and red hat and roll down his pants legs already. And yes, I SAW you tagging A1 Powdercoat wall on the corner of 19th and Valencia Friday morning at 3 AM. Douche. Get a life. You’re over 30 now and still dragging down society.
Oh sorry… I don’t know how old this queen douche is. If you know him so well, why don’t you tell the little boy to do something productive with his life instead of make a lot of people waste their time cleaning up after his mess. We’re not his mommy. Grow up.
fuck you yuppie snitches. move some where else. seriously. we were born and raised here and we fucking hate you. fuck you. never snitch. never ever snitch
it must be good to be the queen of something. im sad i’ve never seen a queen in my life or any of the royal family. im sad you are anti-monarchy, but i did learn that the american patriots rejected monarchy also, dragging down the colonial rule and creating the mighty US nation. when and where to make your mark on society is confusing me as i weep alone.
i don’t think soledad is the emo queen. she’s the bullshit queen. she’s getting old and boring.
as for the topic of tagging clarion alley, i think it sucks. i love graffiti, and will stand up for it any day of the week. but tagging murals is only going to come back to bite you in the ass.
it seems like clarion alley no longer has a curator. someone that cares about the art. i remember they used to paint over the tags on the murals. restore them. keep them looking good. it’s only a matter of time before the tags out number the murals, and soon the city will come through and buff it all.
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Graffiti has been found on ancient Roman walls. “Caesar is a jerk!”. You need to make being a graffiti artist UNcool. You need psychological personality studies that reveal unflattering profiles, such as “low self esteem”, “sexual frustration”, or “sexual inadequacy”; things that will embarrass the tagger among their peers. Then, every year, mention this information to middle school and high school students. …………………. Another way is to have parents take up tagging. Then it will INSTANTLY become uncool among the youth.
or
Graffitti vandals have zero respect for anything that is not theirs. They should be enslaved for a solid year of hard labor when caught.
Yeah, but I would argue that we’re not even talking about graffiti here. I’d actually consider if there were some value were I to read a goddam message in these things, but it’s not a message, it’s a tag, just a tag. It’s a name on a wall. Worst of all, it is entirely self-referential; it’s not a name for the sake of anything but itself. Even etchings in a bathroom wall have more artistic or social value then just a goddam name marring somebody’s wall.
I used to be an Internet Tough Guy. But I used to publish my REAL NAME and address so any PUNKS that disagreed with me could come over to MY PLACE (at their convenience) and receive a real lesson, Internet Tough Guy Style. After a while, I got tired of all the whuppings I had to dish out, and all the lessons I had to teach all these WORTHLESS PUNKS. There just weren’t enough hours in the day. And cleaning up all the bile I spewed all over my computer on a daily basis took up a lot of time, also. (Word of advice – Windex- it cleans up as good or better than any of the more costly industrial strength bile cleaners at the hardware store.)
If this “Euroe” dick thinks his name’s worthy of such publicity, perhaps his tag could be scanned, screened onto a t-shirt, and sold to raise money for the cleanup. Of course, you’d want to trademark it first. What’s he going to do? Sue, reveal his identity, and open himself up to damage lawsuits from the owners of every bit of property he’s ever targeted?
Just asking. There’d have to be a market for tagger shirts (or, if not, for ” is a punk-ass bitch” shirts).
god i hate euroe…. he’s the creme de la creme of douches with his shitty work, stupid bike, and way too hot for him girlfriend he’s just the type of twat i wish would finally get wrapped for his tagging because everyone knows who he is.
why dont you all stop talking shit on someone you never talked to person to person.
half of you fucks probably moved to the mission 4 or 5 yrs ago and are still upset with the stench of piss on mission st
you gotta except the fact that the mission will always be tagged on and wrote on its part of the culture down here i see kids writing on buses and walls all the time,
i myself am upset with the writing in clarion ally however that ally is a constant changing canvas IF YOUR SO UPSET WITH THE GRAFFITI IN THE ALLEY WHY DONT YOU PAINT A MURAL OVER IT !
you probably have nothing better to do if your ragging on the way some kid dresses and how hot his girl friend is
You used a lot of francophiliac Mots in your little rant. This alerts me to your burning desire to perform french kissing on him. Either you want to be him or you want to fuck him – that’s your problem, I guess…otherwise you are just a butthurt drysnitchin blog wanker. Also, property owners don’t know the term ‘wrapped’, so I further suspect you are just jealous of all his caviar and champagne and too weak to rack your own.
Guess what, 90% of the tagging in Mission right now is from kids who are from here.
Where are you from? Do tell….
I don’t care about how you lived here a long time blah blah. Since the 80′s, whatever. You don’t even count if you grew up in the Sunset, Richmond, DC.
whatever…
You lose.
These kids grew up in mission, SF.
It’s their playground. Yours is Medjoul, Foreign Cinema. Inside, not out.
The reason kids are tagging in Clarion is because no one lives in Clarion is taking charge, and the Murals have gone way way down hill.
If you don’t like street things, the streets you mus int play in.
There is this wonderful area I can recommend called Cow Hallow. You shan’t be offended.
clarion alley was pioneered by graffiti writers. before all the legal murals it was smashed by taggers and surenios! dot com hit, then yuppies moved here. then the wave of hipsters. as far as im concerned, these two migrations have killed the mish way more than the altered murals in clarion. your really mad cause some taggers pulled your bitch.. tell the truth
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You need more pictures than this. The entire alley is tagged up now. Almost every single mural has graffiti on it.
Tottaly fucked!
Brock is so kissing your ass on this one. As per SFist “As the luxurious Allan Hough of Mission Mission points out, we were right.”
I think he still thinks your mad about calling Valencia street similar to Pac Heights. I still am.
Getting back to Clarion Alley – that is so dick. That just go to show that these taggers are talentless twats.
I always kiss MM’s ass. Both Kevin and Allan have firm bubble butts. So, you know.
Also, Valencia Street is worse than anything Pac Heights can throw at you. At least the latter knows what it is. Now go back to eating your salted caramel ice cream.
(sigh) As Tom Ammiano would say, always a bridesmaid . . .
Brock, I’m eating the Lavender Honey ice cream – thats what all the Pac Height peeps are into now a days. Actually I’m wondering why you compare Valencia to Pac Heights when its still SOOOO Marina crowd.
And kissing MM’s ass is not a bad thing. They rightfully deserve it. Goooo Team Allan!
x
lol brock you kiss their ass because you can’t come up with any real journalism on your own.
you should tag the letter onto the wall or put a new letter on top of the old one
nobody makes a sad mess on the Jet Martinez mural.
it’s also sad that bi-rite “creamery” doesn’t even make the ice cream they sell to lined up mustaches and black haired ninja girls. so terribly sad. soon the weather will be cold and i can walk the streets in tears alone.
Wait, they don’t make their own stuff? You mean, somebody else has been burning the caramel that goes into the salted caramel lately?
In other news, taggers don’t give a f*@% about CAMP.
yes. they do. there is no question.
Well, yes, they use Strauss organic “ice cream base” but their flavors are their own concoctions. Xanath on Valencia uses Strauss ice cream base as well.
no, they just add sad lonely flavors to it.
No, they don’t just “add flavors”, they both use the Straus base and organic ingredients (vanilla, fruits, saffron, etc.) to make their house flavors. Flavors as saffron ginger or honey lavender can’t just be “added”…
euro is sad dope
Wow, didn’t see this one coming!!
loser tagger for the win.
Glad to see everyone’s back from the playa. While you were gone, Dolores Park was empty and taggers ran rampant. Oh, and this site continued to hit & miss.
Someone needs to put a webcam up on Clarion, and motion detection sprinklers. Those things are awesome.
thats not arty
That is so lame. Those bitches better not have tagged up my favorite mural, the one facing west with the faun girl. The little indentation there makes it one of my favorite spots for an alley quickie. Screw sprinklers, those douches need to get fucking curb stomped.
Curb stompin’?
that’s just the start, my friend.
silom6x :
“My solution is to tag/spray paint the perps if and when caught in the act. I think that might make them think twice. Another solution, to quote a very ancient law: If the hand offends thee, cut it off.”
irving1144:
“If i ever catch a tagger working in my neighborhood, I am going to crush his/her skull with my 36oz Louisville Slugger….SPLATT GOES THE WEASEL!”
dogeatcat :
“First offense, cut off one hand. I doubt there will ever be a second offense.”
If you agree with these and other violent fantasies, congratulations!
You have officially graduated.
What a short little trip it turned out to be, from commenting on missionmission to fitting right in with like minded fans of the poetic and fascist musings of C.W. Nevius at the Chronicle: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/comments/view?f=/c/a/2009/03/27/BAGL16O8RT.DTL&o=2
Incidentally,if it’s cleaner more orderly Mission that you are yearning for, it looks like Gideon Kramer (from the Nevius article) could be your man. You might already be aware of his energetic work towards cleaning most of you out of Dolores Park: http://missionmission.wordpress.com/2009/08/28/leaked-memo-reveals-effort-to-improve-dolores-park/
Or perhaps you enjoyed these tales of his taxpayer funded exploits tearing down anti-war fliers: http://www.sfbg.com/entry.php?entry_id=1295
Now that you are ready to take action, you can contact Mr. Kramer here: http://www.gykramer.com/contact/ and let the glorious cleansing begin!
[...] the luxurious Allan Hough Kevin Montgomery of Mission Mission points out, we were [...]
I think tagging is just awful. It’s just so friggin’ base and retarded. And even if I get it on some random wall, which I don’t, putting your tag on somebody’s goddam mural? Ridiculous. “Tim, what are you up to tonight?”
“Dunno, thought maybe I’d catch up with Johnny over at the park, then maybe a burrito, maybe stop off in that alley later and paint my name on the wall.”
“Your name on the wall? Why woul you do that?”
“I don’t know. I saw this one kid do it, and thought, ‘yeah, I like my name, and I”ll bet I could write it in some weird way, and then I could put it on a lot of places so that my name could be seen.’”
“I still don’t get it.”
“You wouldn’t.”
The cavemen got it. Taggers must be glad that most people don’t realize how glamorous tagging is and how great the kids feel doing it. It would be sad if it didn’t make Citizens want to beat, torture, and kill a kid for altering the surface color of a wall without permission. Put taggers through a wood chipper like Saddam’s kids did to their victims. It was sad they were killed before they could chip up more people. The chipped-up people never tagged much again. Maybe some of their victims had tagged their grammar school desk or something. Taggers are pretty much the worst things going on in the world it seems. It sad and makes my cry now.
a somewhat illiterate, and non-sensible response leaving more questions unanswered than answered…so here goes.
-were saddam’s children in the chipper, or were they putting the children of others in the chipper? -were they in the chipper for tagging?
and if taggers are as you illude “pretty much the worst (sic) thing going on in the world” for you right now, you might take the path of gratitude rather than snark.
me, for instance, i saw a man murdered last weekend. i would much rather have seen some shitty tag than seen blood running out of this mans ears.
please revisit your response and return with a sense-making response. because, that…there…above — is like reading a passage from Lewis Carrol’s “The Jaberwocky.” it just make no fucking sense.
im sad you cant read between the lines
Dear literate, Lewis Carrol(sic)-reading guy, It’s “allude”, and either “insensible” or “nonsensical”(your choice).
Sorry, but that’s difficult to resist.
But speaking of leaving questions unanswered:
“me, for instance, i saw a man murdered last weekend.”?
The connection to this discussion seems pretty tenuous, not to mention harsh for Sad Old Doe-Loser. I’m guessing you’ve also got a headline somewhere else about it.
You’re a freakin idiot. I hope your whole family gets put in a wood chipper just because you said that so you can feel how it is.
Damn I can’t beleive I let dolores troll me. that is a good one dolores. LOL
im still pretty morose about this. i’m sad i don’t have a twitter but mission mission is great for expressing my sorrow. thankful but sad.
don’t be sad trolledad, you pulled it off you trolled the whole thread and even got a new post from it.
http://missionmission.wordpress.com/2009/09/11/opinion-put-taggers-through-a-wood-chipper/
Real blogs get trolled by real internet lurkers, so put away the Mr. “I saw the troll first!!!!” routine. Nobody cares about your sad little tumblr blog, either. Link us to it when you get your first comment, loudmouth.
Euroe is the queen douche of SF taggers. And your friend really should take off those dorky glasses and red hat and roll down his pants legs already. And yes, I SAW you tagging A1 Powdercoat wall on the corner of 19th and Valencia Friday morning at 3 AM. Douche. Get a life. You’re over 30 now and still dragging down society.
You’re an idiot get your facts straight Euroe is 18 or 19 and just started at city college.
Good try. Who’s the idiot now.
Oh sorry… I don’t know how old this queen douche is. If you know him so well, why don’t you tell the little boy to do something productive with his life instead of make a lot of people waste their time cleaning up after his mess. We’re not his mommy. Grow up.
LOL obviously you’re the idiot.
Uh loincloth nice try — duh. YOU’re the idiot! Hahahaha.
fuck you yuppie snitches. move some where else. seriously. we were born and raised here and we fucking hate you. fuck you. never snitch. never ever snitch
it must be good to be the queen of something. im sad i’ve never seen a queen in my life or any of the royal family. im sad you are anti-monarchy, but i did learn that the american patriots rejected monarchy also, dragging down the colonial rule and creating the mighty US nation. when and where to make your mark on society is confusing me as i weep alone.
you sound like you need a boyfriend and a case of wine.
ixnay on the adsadney. or something like that.
go back to cheerleading for your sad team…i am my own boyfriend
Don’t cry, Soledad. You’re the Emo Queen. So… wait, keep crying, I guess. Don’t want to lose your crown.
i don’t think soledad is the emo queen. she’s the bullshit queen. she’s getting old and boring.
as for the topic of tagging clarion alley, i think it sucks. i love graffiti, and will stand up for it any day of the week. but tagging murals is only going to come back to bite you in the ass.
it seems like clarion alley no longer has a curator. someone that cares about the art. i remember they used to paint over the tags on the murals. restore them. keep them looking good. it’s only a matter of time before the tags out number the murals, and soon the city will come through and buff it all.
then soledad can really cry.
Why does all of this make people feel so violent? Sort of strange.
[...] 11, 2009 · Leave a Comment ARTSY Regardless of which side of the Clarion Alley battle you fall into, you’ve gotta admit that street art can be totally rad, when not destructive. [...]
that dickbag and his friends tagged all over my goddamn house.
tommy for the win
im sad God damned your house.
LOL soledad is just trollin all of you. No one could really be that idiotic.
tonite we weep together
Estoy triste que todos somos soledad dolores.
Chale.
Graffiti has been found on ancient Roman walls. “Caesar is a jerk!”. You need to make being a graffiti artist UNcool. You need psychological personality studies that reveal unflattering profiles, such as “low self esteem”, “sexual frustration”, or “sexual inadequacy”; things that will embarrass the tagger among their peers. Then, every year, mention this information to middle school and high school students. …………………. Another way is to have parents take up tagging. Then it will INSTANTLY become uncool among the youth.
or
Graffitti vandals have zero respect for anything that is not theirs. They should be enslaved for a solid year of hard labor when caught.
Yeah, but I would argue that we’re not even talking about graffiti here. I’d actually consider if there were some value were I to read a goddam message in these things, but it’s not a message, it’s a tag, just a tag. It’s a name on a wall. Worst of all, it is entirely self-referential; it’s not a name for the sake of anything but itself. Even etchings in a bathroom wall have more artistic or social value then just a goddam name marring somebody’s wall.
I used to be an Internet Tough Guy. But I used to publish my REAL NAME and address so any PUNKS that disagreed with me could come over to MY PLACE (at their convenience) and receive a real lesson, Internet Tough Guy Style. After a while, I got tired of all the whuppings I had to dish out, and all the lessons I had to teach all these WORTHLESS PUNKS. There just weren’t enough hours in the day. And cleaning up all the bile I spewed all over my computer on a daily basis took up a lot of time, also. (Word of advice – Windex- it cleans up as good or better than any of the more costly industrial strength bile cleaners at the hardware store.)
Euro is a little punk who tagged on my hallway wall once.
“Oh my God, that’s so cute. The way you draw on stuff and think about yourself all the time”
I’m not from around these parts, but:
If this “Euroe” dick thinks his name’s worthy of such publicity, perhaps his tag could be scanned, screened onto a t-shirt, and sold to raise money for the cleanup. Of course, you’d want to trademark it first. What’s he going to do? Sue, reveal his identity, and open himself up to damage lawsuits from the owners of every bit of property he’s ever targeted?
Just asking. There’d have to be a market for tagger shirts (or, if not, for ” is a punk-ass bitch” shirts).
You don’t buy a tagger tee. You wear a black tee and stand against a wall.
Touché. And you can still add “is a punk-ass bitch” after the fact.
aint no bitch like a punk ass bitch cuz a punk ass bitch don’t stop.
god i hate euroe…. he’s the creme de la creme of douches with his shitty work, stupid bike, and way too hot for him girlfriend he’s just the type of twat i wish would finally get wrapped for his tagging because everyone knows who he is.
why dont you all stop talking shit on someone you never talked to person to person.
half of you fucks probably moved to the mission 4 or 5 yrs ago and are still upset with the stench of piss on mission st
you gotta except the fact that the mission will always be tagged on and wrote on its part of the culture down here i see kids writing on buses and walls all the time,
i myself am upset with the writing in clarion ally however that ally is a constant changing canvas IF YOUR SO UPSET WITH THE GRAFFITI IN THE ALLEY WHY DONT YOU PAINT A MURAL OVER IT !
you probably have nothing better to do if your ragging on the way some kid dresses and how hot his girl friend is
You used a lot of francophiliac Mots in your little rant. This alerts me to your burning desire to perform french kissing on him. Either you want to be him or you want to fuck him – that’s your problem, I guess…otherwise you are just a butthurt drysnitchin blog wanker. Also, property owners don’t know the term ‘wrapped’, so I further suspect you are just jealous of all his caviar and champagne and too weak to rack your own.
That was directed at preciousata not charles
Guess what, 90% of the tagging in Mission right now is from kids who are from here.
Where are you from? Do tell….
I don’t care about how you lived here a long time blah blah. Since the 80′s, whatever. You don’t even count if you grew up in the Sunset, Richmond, DC.
whatever…
You lose.
These kids grew up in mission, SF.
It’s their playground. Yours is Medjoul, Foreign Cinema. Inside, not out.
The reason kids are tagging in Clarion is because no one lives in Clarion is taking charge, and the Murals have gone way way down hill.
If you don’t like street things, the streets you mus int play in.
There is this wonderful area I can recommend called Cow Hallow. You shan’t be offended.
I watched this kid “Euroe” get the living shit beat out of him the other night on 16th. Thought I’d share that…
murals be runnin. $$$
clarion alley was pioneered by graffiti writers. before all the legal murals it was smashed by taggers and surenios! dot com hit, then yuppies moved here. then the wave of hipsters. as far as im concerned, these two migrations have killed the mish way more than the altered murals in clarion. your really mad cause some taggers pulled your bitch.. tell the truth
FUCK YEAH BUMB THE FUCK OUT THAT EUROE
Everything can easily be written over. Nothing lasts forever in the graffiti world.